Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!botter!ast
From: ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: ELLE
Message-ID: <1805@botter.cs.vu.nl>
Date: 27 Dec 87 21:54:58 GMT
Reply-To: ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum)
Organization: VU Informatica, Amsterdam
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I have not seen any postings about ELLE so far, nor have I received any mail.
I am beginning to suspect that either
  1) My posting of ELLE (an Emacs clone written by Ken Harrenstien) got lost
  2) Everybody in netland is a dyed-in-the-wool vi addict and doesn't care
  3) Nobody in the U.S. or Europe works during the second half of December
     any more, which explains why the hard-working Japanese are doing so well

I have received some other mail and news, so mcvax is still healthy.

If anyone has installed ELLE, please post your experiences with it, as well
as gripes, etc.  Is anyone planning to make it compile on MINIX, presumably 
by very carefully deleting a few files?

One remark.  If you are entering a program or document by just typing it in,
every time you enter a new line, the screen scrolls 1 line up.  Since the
bottom two lines are for status and messages, this "scrolling" is accomplished
by redisplaying the entire screen.  On an AT, this is barely noticeable.  On
a PC, I am not sure.  The way I got ELLE from Ken, it scrolled about 15
lines when the screen filled up, so that "scrolling" didn't happen very often.
I didn't like this feature, and badgered him to parameterize it.  If there
is massive demand, I could generate another version that did it his way
and post that.  I personally don't like looking at blank screen, but I can
sort of imagine that on a very slow machine, the constant redisplaying every
line could become tiresome.  Unfortunately, the number of lines to scroll
when the screen fills up is a compile time, rather than a run time, parameter.

Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl)