Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!cunyvm!unknown From: rrk@byuvax.bitnet Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: VERB program (was: VMS_SECURITY) Message-ID: <45rrk@byuvax.bitnet> Date: 19 Dec 87 18:45:16 GMT Lines: 13 I have to give a very solid vote FOR the note by Jamie Hanrahan. The only thing more agravating than having to work on two systems which managers have decided to "rearrange" just to suit their own taste, is a system manager (the likes of which I've encountered and yould have liked to shoot every day of every month I used a system managed by him) whose tastes seemed to change daily. Changing the names of commands, queues, and the defaults taken by qualifiers (have you ever spawned and had a system manager helpfully make the /NOWAIT qualifier default?). What users do for themselves in making commands more convenient is fine. They made the definitions themselves and can even port them or learn to live without them. But a system manager's only function in defining the DCL environment should be to add new things that THE USER CANNOT GET IN ANY OTHER WAY. Defining sd to set default should NEVER be done in the system login procedure.