Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!AI.AI.MIT.EDU!JBVB From: JBVB@AI.AI.MIT.EDU ("James B. VanBokkelen") Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: More than one IP (sub)network on one ethernet cable Message-ID: <302655.871221.JBVB@AI.AI.MIT.EDU> Date: 22 Dec 87 04:42:56 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 37 Ok. There are a number of situations where this configuration (more than one net or subnet on a single broadcast medium) seems to bring some benefit. However, it goes against a fairly fundamental paradigm of RFC 791 and RFC 950, the use of the network (and subnet) mask to make a simple routing decision. My present code, and its installation, configuration, debugging & documentation all benefit from this. I assume that if you're going to break the paradigm, you want to go whole hog and have different classes of networks, and different numbers of subnet bits, all on the same cable? So the configuration would have to look like: mask 255.255.224.0 net 128.4.32.0 local ; class B, 3 subnet bits mask 255.255.0.0 net 18.10.0.0 local ; Class A, 8 subnet bits mask 255.255.255.0 net 192.9.1.0 local ; Class C, 0 subnet bits Three nets wouldn't be enough - I'd better design for 8, or 16. The list gets scanned for every miss on the ARP cache. Not too expensive. However, the configuration would have to be set, correctly, on every host on the net. Is it still safe to assume that everything which is not on the list should go through a default gateway, or do workstations need explicit routes there, too? We can write the code, we can document it, we can probably even explain it to the non-guru (to whom setting up an IP network is already a major adventure). Right now, I don't think it is justified. Maybe once automatic, central configuration initialization & control is available, maybe once the Unix manufacturers all get into agreement about the nature of broadcast packets, maybe once IP Multicast is generally understood, and implementations are beginning to show up (in DC, Postel warned that this was something vendors should keep their eyes on). It looks like a low priority to me. Are there people with money to spend that say otherwise? jbvb