Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!burl!codas!killer!billw From: billw@killer.UUCP Newsgroups: rec.games.hack,comp.sources.bugs Subject: NetHack Woes Message-ID: <2361@killer.UUCP> Date: Mon, 7-Dec-87 01:15:53 EST Article-I.D.: killer.2361 Posted: Mon Dec 7 01:15:53 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 12-Dec-87 08:40:48 EST Reply-To: billw@killer.UUCP (Bill Wisner) Organization: HASA Lines: 40 Xref: utgpu rec.games.hack:1692 comp.sources.bugs:506 Summary: NetHack 2.2 on System V? Right after I walk on water. When, when, oh when will someone finally make nethack REALLY work on a System V machine? At 1.4, I hacked on nethack to try to get it running on killer, a 3B2 that at the time was on system V release 2.0.5 (we've since upgraded to 3.1). At the time, I beat up mercilessly on termcap.c for an hour or so and the program pretty much worked. termcap.c is still a mess. Whomever claimed that the program does, indeed function if TERMINFO is defined has rocks in his head. I have to go through the file and change half of the tgetwhatever calls because the wrong 2-letter ID codes are used. The delay_output is a joke (1.4 just printed the string $<50> instead of padding) which should not even be there for System V users: terminfo has a delay_output built in. Well, I have actually gotten it do compile. I have to manually set the value of XD to a linefeed, since cursor down doesn't work (seems to do a return instead) and xd isn't even known to terminfo. Let's give nethack a try. Looks fine for about ten seconds. Then you start to REALLY abuse the program: you try to move. Forget about a nicely-formatted screen. And I seem to know what all of my objects are. Identify? Who needs it? I rather strongly doubt that this is a new 'feature' in 2.2. My next bitch, pardon my Francais, may be a perfectly legitimate bug. When I walk into my dog, I see "You stop to avoid hitting ." Certainly not the most meaningful output in such a situation. Well, I'm done ranting at the various people who's put their two cents worth into the game. I'm sure all the new mods are quite nice, but I'm damned if I can use them. A plea to Mike Stephenson: please, PLEASE! get a real, working compile-time option for System V. A plea to anyone who has compiled this monster on a 3B2: hello, friend.. let's talk. Really. My address will be right beneath the dotted line -- -- Bill Wisner, HASA "A" Division ..{codas,ihnp4}!killer!billw "I am not an economist. I am an honest man."