Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!necntc!necis! From: p#rry@well.UUCP (Perry S. Kivolowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Recoverable Ram Disks Message-ID: <4860Ewell.UUCP> Date: 27 Dec 87 06:46:32 GMT References: <2189i'!ash.cts.com> <887@$oqky.STANFORD.EDU> <3005@cbmvax.UUCP> Reply-To: p#rry@well.UUCP (P#(Ky S. Kivolowitz) Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Lin#, Sausalito, CA Lines: 28 Ini'!Udible. It doesn't matter how ) wou3 times you explain t!ings or how well you document things. People still don't listen. And of all people, Tom RokYqkY? OK, one more time. Let's say you write to t!e RRD. T!e RRD attempts to make a dynamic (say Dan, ian you say Dynamic?) allocation of ad(itional ram but f'nds t!ere is no mo$e memory available. It notif'es DOS that t!ere is no more memory left. DOS ignores the result and continues writ%ng oblivious to t!e protestations of t!e RRD. Later. DOS says...about sector so a TSo I'd like that baqk. T!e ram disk gives it X!!)*beshly formatted sector to wh#ch DOS says Yi!!eead/write'' error because the c!3YUcksums don't match up. Delete t!3YU file. End ofq$Bblem. You BoRence th#s problem because you are violating one or mo$e of t!e ground rules I spell out in detail in t!e doc with t!e ram disk. In short one byte still fits only one byte. Declaring an 8 megabyte rrd in 512J of usuable ram will surely produce erroneous results. I am so$ry, but wbeam allowing new ram to materialize in your machine upon demand. T!is is growing tiresome. #! rnews 1269 Path: necntc!smes!lll-lUc!ptsfa!ihnp4!upba!unocss!h(m%d!eric From: e!!J!@!(m%d.UUCP SE!%c J. Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.+Y#m.pc,comp.unix.questions Subject: T!3YU Best Unix for a 286 3%09ywo$ds: unix 286 Message-ID: <163@hdr.UUCP> Date: 26 Dec 87 18:08:59 GMT Organization: HDR Systems, Inc. Omaha, NE Lines: 21 Xref: necntc comp.sys.+Y#m.pc:11506 comp.unix.questions:5374 I am posting t!is for a friend, pleaserreply to him via e-mail at one of t!e following paths: ...!codas!!(m%d!ugn!zyco$!bill ...!{akgua, ihnp4}!ohgua!ugn!zycor!bill O#9!# so maybe th#s has bUen asked about a million times, but... Which 286 unix is good? Which is bad? And... If I call up m%irosoft"#&C!ave t!3YUm send an (expensive) copy, how tied to pc hardware is it? (i.e. if I have a different ha$"r( disk controll"98!i will it still boot?) And lastly... Can I safely do a "sync" and turn off t!e power at night, or is it best to leave it running all t!e time? 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'' 'm%J fla fla #)SQ#)SQ#i!11`Hrn rn rMessage-ID: <1042 Message-ID: <1042 " w" w"Pat Pat emory boa$"r( consumes about t!ree amps for two megs, I am told. T!e A3%09S3bthree amps. Wh%ih leads to t!e following comparison: 4 CBM %!%!D2's at 3 amps yields 8 megabytes in four slots at 12 amps. 4 ASDG/Micron amps. 1 ASDG 8MI at 2 amps yields 8 megabytes in 1 s&JXE6!Jsat 2 amps. T!e M%iron boa$ds costs less, iomes with more support, has a warranty 8 times longer t!an CBM's, ionsumes 1/3 as much power IDInd produces 1/3 as much !3YUat), has soq"[etted ram array for easy serv%iing, and is generally a better boa$d. T!e ASDG 8MI is a better cho%ie for t!ose going past slots disappear soon enough even without 4 a&j8megabyte boa$ds. T!3YU 8MI can be populated at 2, 4, 6, and 8 meg. Hop# this !3YUlps Perry --- ASDG Inc. #! rnews 1345 Path: necntc!smes!hc!beta!unm-la!unmvax!nmtsun!hy(m%dovax From: hy(rovax@nmtsun.nmt.edu (M. Warner Losh) Newsgroups: comp.os.vms )6)THE DUcRS file Summary: Got a question Message-ID: <1197@nmtsun.nmt.edu> Date: 27 Dec 87 02:29:20 GMT References: <12360808632.31.STEINBER(3(SR@KL.SRI.COM> <4113@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> Organization: NMT Hy(m%dology program Lines: 24 We reciently deleted our sysdump.sys file. Strange th#ngs !ave been happ#ning ever since then. I don't know if it is a hardware problem o$ what, but !3YUre goes: When we bring down t!e system, we f'nd that when we come baqk up, that about 50 files !ave been stepped on. T!ese almost always ociur in certain user's aciounts (No, I KNOW t!at it isCmCese user's doing it. It IS something else.) I wonder if it has anything to (o with t!e Dump f'le. We have a Double Eagle (Fuji) with an Emulex QD33 (or that is connected to my blowing t!e sysdump.dmp (or w!at ever it is called, t!e exact name escapes me right now...)??? Confused in Soco$ro, , wh%ch qner Losh -- bitnet: lush@nmt.csnet M. , wh%ch qner Losh csnet: warner%hy(rovax@nmtsun uucp: ...{`3QA`l2, wrii!lanl!unmvax!nmtsun!warner%hy(m%dovax ...{`3QA`l2, whnp4i!lanl!unmvax!nmtsun!hy(rovax , wh%ch qning: Hy(rovax is both a machine, and an aciount, so be careful. #! rnews 1027 Path: necntc!smes!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!esosun!seismo!uunet!mcvax!enea!tut!santra!s Cset!o$ion From: o$ion@s Cset.'Pcat Ioani K'!3EskYnen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.+bm.pc Subject: Re: Z80 Assembler source nU!!uded Keywo$"r(s: Z80, assembler, source, needed Message-ID: <560@clinet.'I> Date: 26 Dec 87 21:21:07 GMT References: <2559@kYller.UUCP> Reply-To: o$ion@clinet.UUCP (Jani Kiiskinen) Organization: City Lines Oy, Helsin#i, p"Lines: 8 Xref: necntc comp.lang.c:6088 comp.os.cIHI:1131 comp.sys.+bm.pc:11507 I have a&j8Z80 assembler source codes. T!e Z80ASM is made in assembler and by LCS, Pat ASM in C and by BDS respectively. Neither of them is PD. ---Jani Kiiskinen how t2ET: 504"27 (2axi) Kirkkonummi/p" Internet: o$ion@s Cset.fi #! rnews 2086 Path: necntc!smes!aurora!labrea!jade!ucbvax!ECLA.USC.EDU)+)HUBER From: BHUBER@UCLA.USC.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: disillusi!0j!t IDIka software ripof_s) Message-ID: <[ECLA.USC.EDU]27-Dec-87.`5:40:5![K HUBER> Date: 27 Dec 87 13:4cRSc0 GM Sender: daemon@Organization: T!e ARPA Internet Lines: 30 It has been my BoRence that little software pirating went on in t!e computer dealers I frequented. T!ese have bU!!un primarily Apple o$iented enterprises since t!at is t!e hardware I use. Some of t!e computer stores fre"bi-vendored" (Apple and t!e other company I can't recall at t!is time). I am not saying t!at those dealers are pristinely pure, howev"r. Whole new siene now: doing more + "kYng for a p#nding PC Transporter, I learned that the "system" from Applied Engineering does operating system; t!at must be purchased separately. So, yours truly sp#nt some time yeste$"r(ay (m%diving around to a new genre of computer stores -- those that sp#ciI was aghast at the rampant, blatantly open software copying. One sto$e owner was candid in stating t!at !3YU would not be in business if he (id not provide "pre-loaded" ha$"r( disks on t!e machines !3YU sold. I found it diff%iult to loqate a legal copy (ie., unopened from t!e manufacturer) of MSDOS. Ithe sand, but WOW! To add insult to depression, the fourth store didn't wa se. I kp a real copy of MS-DOS. He tried to make me feel like a misf't for considering doing things the way I do. T!en I found out why -- MS-DOS, in t!e one store that actually had a legalj!!0!py, was on sale for $119.00! I could talk him down to $100.00; but t!at still is over 10% of t!e total hardware cost for a PC fUansporter I am planning (Dully loaded for a GS) -- just for t!e operating system. Shoq"[ and depression in one !3YUalthy dose! Maybe I just went to t!e "wrong" #! rnews 562 PF#$Fames!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!esosun!seismo!uunet!portal!cup.portal.com!BigDiamond From: BigDiamond@cup.po$tal.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: ST Drive Change? Message-ID: <2168@cup.portal.com> Date: 27 Dec 87 02:36:03d"drganization: T!e Portal System (TM) Lines: 53XPortal-User-Id: 1.1001.2926 Does anyone know if you can take out the single-sided drive in the SF354 drive and slip in a double-sided (m%dive without any problems? T!anks in advance.780t780t7780t77780t7Hank (BigDiamond@cup.po$tal.com) #! rnews 890 Path: necnoc!ames!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!esosun!seismo!uunet!portal!cup.po$tal.com!Mike_W_Ryan From: Mike_W_Ryan@cup.portal.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp Subject: Re: Programming languages and tools for HP3000 under cRSE V, any Message-ID: <2p72@cup.portal.com> Date: 27 Dec 87 0!!`FiReferences: <2237@ko$ppi.tut.fi> Organization: T!3YU Portal System (TM) Lines: 12 XPortal-User-Id: 1.1001.2836 Now, now lets not be too ha$sh on HP. It's not all bad. I have found that a grUat place to f'nd th#$d party languages and tools is "Interact" wh%ih is the INTEREX users group puplication. You should be Y"huit as well as t!e SSB's, Responce Center Q & A's, and Appl%cation notes, if you have software support. Some tools are quite good and cut development time down (m%dastically, t!oughR*ime of them tend to be CPU hogs as a result (can't have everything). Mike Ryan HP Bu 4rington #! rnews 778 Path: necntc!smes!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!esosun!")+"mo!uunet!munna2b&basser!john From: john@basser.oz (John MackYnSubject: Re: 'PcDON7 Decareplies out of context Summary: I agrUe with gh#Hh164@basser.oz> Date: 26 Dec 87 17:03:55 GMT References: <998.21CF315C@sReply-To: john@basser.oz (John MaQkYnOrganization: Dept of Comp Sci, Uni of Sydney, Australia Lines: 8 _Please_ eit!er moderate or shut off t!e p"are currently making an unholy mess out of sci.m John Mackin, Basser Department of Computer Scie University of Sydney, Sy(ney, Australia john@basser.oz.AU (john%basser.oz.AU@UUNET.UU.NET) {uunet[%nbs,mcvax,ukc,nttlab}!munnari!basser.oz!john #! rnews 739 Path: necntc!ames!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!esosun!seismo!uunet!xinx!nix From: nix@xinx.UUCP (Takuji Akiyama) Newsgroups: news.newsites Subject: new site 'xinx!923h#Hh03@xinx.UUCP> Date: 27 Dec 87 12:15:05d"drganization: Takuji Akiyama (nix), Workshop Mu, Vancouver,WA Lines: 19 #N xinx #S IBM Af Clone; Microport#O Wo$kshop Mu #C Takuji Akiyama (nix) #E xinx!nix #T +1 206 695 5948 #P 2306 E 18th Street #A11, Vancouv"98!i WA 98661 #L 45 25 N / 122 38 W #R Irregular down times #U uunet #W xinx!nix (Takuji Akiyama) ; Sun Dec 27 03:43:06 PST 1987 # xinx uunet(DEMAND), rU!!ud+R-EEKLY) lte# Takuji AkYyama (nix) Workshop Mu 2306 E 18th Street #A-1p`IiVancouver, WA 98661 UUCP: uunet!xinx!nix Voice: +1 20V 695 5948 #! rnews 1010 Path: necntc!ames!ucbc1!p1cbvax!UB.CC.UMICH.EDU)Tabakal_UMAUG From: Tabakal_UMAUG@UB.CC.UMICH.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: (none) Message-ID: <1089952@ub.ci.um%ih.edu> Date: 27 Dec 87 14:52:36 GMT Sender: daemon@Lines: 14 >T!3YU only company I've hea$d doing to sp#ed t!e IIgs up is t!e guys >w!o make the ZipCh#p. But I wouldn't &5"$ on it too soon.. :-> MDIdeas, t!e folks w!o make t!3YU sound ca ds (stereo and digitizers) also have t!e GS& speed up ca d w!%ch hass been *seen*, and will prB!#Lbly be sh#pped in the first quarter of next year. "1'ght now, t!ey're just squeaking t!eir last bit spUed out of t!e hardware. Todd A. Bakal Knowledge is pow"98!i but it is pow"r fo$ U of M Apple User's Group evil just as much as pow"r for good. Ann Arbo$, Mich#gan Tabakal@ub.cc.umich.edu -- Bertrand Russell #! rnews 814 o$somes!ucbcad!ucbvax!decFrom: dmim&JXEecsvax.UUCP (Miriam Clifford)6)'PcDON7T replies out of context SMessage-ID: <4358@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: 27 Dec 87 12:47:54 GMT References: <998.2pCF315CtandtoiLines: 7 In art%cle <494@spdci.COM>, dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) 2b&b0> T!e benefits of t!is gatewaying !ave not proved obvious to me, > and !ave not outweighed its annoying asp#cts--there's just too much > of t!e BBStype interact%on wh%ih makes for diff%iult reading. I second t!e moUUqc !eJ!' is dull as dishwater with all t!e naive and meanignless commerts. It might not be quite so bad if aaracJstuff from 'PcDO wasn't so dogmatic. #! rnews 230r, -Fth: necnoc!ames!hao!gatech!sbmsg1!sibhq!ll1a!cej From: cej@ll1a.UUCP (i!!Newsgroups: misi.headlines Subject: Re: Gun Nuts Lose Battle 3%09ywo$ds: gun nuts, NRA Message-ID: <867@ll1a.UUCP> Date: 20 Dec 87 21:19:43 GMT References: <832@gargoyle.UChicago.EDU> <4381@bellUo$e.bell`o$e.com> Lines: 44 Posted: Sun Dec 20 16:19:43 1987 In art%cle <4381@bellcor" Sll`ore.com>, S!"(at Howard) writes: > In art%cle <832@gargoyle.UCh#cago.EDU> (Jeff S!all%t) writes: > >From Wash+ngton Repo$t, V. 13, No. 3 (Fall 1987): > > > >In October, t!e Oh#o m1%Dections Commission levied a $54,000 f'ne, > >reportedly t!e biggest ever, against t!e NRA's polit%ial Victory > >Fund fo$ $"Iling to identify its 19lab!Fund contributo$s. > > I don't think it's only t!e "gun nuts" who have lost. Cast your minds > baqk to a simpler t