Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!gatech!udel!rminnich From: rminnich@udel.EDU (Ron Minnich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Viruses and Stolen Software Message-ID: <927@louie.udel.EDU> Date: 4 Jan 88 17:02:53 GMT Reply-To: rminnich@udel.EDU (Ron Minnich) Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 38 The issue of viruses has brought up the whole issue of stolen software. Someone has claimed that you only get the virus if you steal software. I hope that misapprehension has been laid to rest by the many stories of people who have gotten hurt and who have NOT stolen software. I guess i am thick but i still do not see how the virus mongering protects against software theft. Are people shipping these viruses in production software as a way of protecting themselves? If so then the companies involved should be boycotted. If not then what is the link? As a founding member of a nascent Town Watch organization I have a thought or two about software theft on the Amiga. Crime exists where i live because in many cases people refuse to get involved. 'Someone else'- the police, the politicians, other organizations- are expected to solve the problem. Yet people continue to buy hot lawn mowers; they are not willing to contribute time to help fight crime; and so on. I see something similar happening here. "commodore should do something"- but- people know of pirate boards and do not report them. I think if we really care about this machine and want to see it succeed we have to help, and that includes shutting down the pirates any way we can. Commodore can not do it, and neither can the [Insert your favorite organization]. If we want this theft to stop then WE have to do it. Starting now. Or, the Amiga gets hurt. As for the virus-mongers i think the solution is maybe simple. I for one am willing to put up $25 as part of a reward fund. If we find the people doing this then we lock them out of user's groups and other organizations for a period of five years. And we refuse to give them aid and comfort of any form. I would vote for starting with SCA if possible. Generally criminals (and that's what these are- vandals) are willing to rat on each other for a little money. Maybe a reward will bring them out of the woodwork. Sorry if this comes on a little strong. I am quite mad about this whole situation. -- ron (rminnich@udel.edu)