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From: SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: APPLE2-L
Message-ID: <8712171039.aa11283@SEM.BRL.ARPA>
Date: 17 Dec 87 15:04:00 GMT
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The easiest way to tell if you are subscribed to APPLE2-L is
if you are receiving files (if you haven't gotten any in the
last 2 or 3 days AND you've been receiving mail from elsewhere
<such as info-apple>, then you must not be on the list).

From Bitnet and Internet, you can send commands to

LISTSERV@BROWNVM   <--- NOTE!!!! that is DIFFERENT from APPLE2-L

The commands must be in the body of mail and NOTHING else other
than commands should be in the message (no thank you or "signature").

Useful commands:

SUBSCRIBE APPLE2-L your_1st_name your_last_name
INDEX APPLE2-L  (will provide a list of previously submitted files)
GET APPLE2-L 87-nnnnn (where 'nnnnn' is the file number given in the
     list received from INDEX)
REVIEW APPLE2-L  (provides a list of addresses and names of subscribers
     to the list)
SIGNOFF APPLE2-L (removes you from the list)

IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT!!!!!

If you send these commands to APPLE2-L@BROWNVM they are simply sent
out as mail to all the subscribers.  The command will NOT be executed.
If you are trying to sign off by posting messages to APPLE2-L, expect
to be frustrated.  The list owner often hasn't the time to read the
list on a daily basis.

UUCP ! UUCP ! UUCP ! UUCP ! UUCP ! UUCP

Unfortunately (we don't like it either folks, and the author of the
software IS working on improving the code to solve the problems).
APPLE2-L does NOT work very well for UUCP subscribers.

1) It DOES NOT SUCCEED in responding to commands; I don't know whether
   the problem is within UUCP or is caused at the gateways between
   UUCP and bitnet, but LISTSERV simply does not generate addresses
   that work in response to commands.

2) SOME (regretably, not all) UUCP subscribers can receive files from
   APPLE2-L as they are posted.  The list owner (see below) can enter
   list distribution addresses by hand; IF (and ONLY IF) he can find
   an address that works in UPPER CASE (need to find a gateway that
   will accept upper case addresses from the LISTSERV and convert them
   to lower case for UUCP -- some gates do it, most don't) can the list
   be sent to UUCP subscribers (maybe someone can talk a backbone site
   into being the "address of record" for APPLE2-L and redistribute
   the files to UUCP-subscribers -- that's not quite a
   comp.binaries.apple if the redistribution site doesn't archive what
   it's mailing).

   IF YOU ARE ON UUCP, PLEASE DON'T SEND COMMANDS TO LISTSERVBROWNVM
   (or APPLE2-L@BROWNVM either for that matter).  That mail only generates
   bounced mail and other error messages.

   HOWEVER, YOU CAN POST PROGRAMS (THOSE are the ones that should be
   sent to APPLE2-L@BROWNVM) to the list.

3) The list owner is Chris Chung whose address is: CC004019@BROWNVM
   PLEASE address queries about whether you are sucessfully subscribed,
   questions about files you received/don't receive from the server, etc.
   DIRECTLY to Chris (Really, those messages don't belong on either
   info-apple or APPLE2-L).  If your attempts to send mail to Chris
   bounce, then it's unlikely that APPLE2-L is going to work for you
   (sorry).

4) It doesn't do a whole lot of good to send mail to me.  I'm just an
   "elf" (gremlin?) that volunteers to help Chris out when I can (he
   has to spend time studying for exams, I only have to write exams).
   I have no official position (control over or responsibility for)
   relevant to APPLE2-L

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ARPA:   sewall%uconnvm.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu       Murphy A. Sewall
BITNET: SEWALL@UCONNVM                          School of Business Admin.
UUCP:   ...ihnp4!psuvax1!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL  University of Connecticut