Xref: utzoo comp.sys.atari.st:6518 comp.sys.amiga:11928 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!mks!wheels From: wheels@mks.UUCP (Gerry Wheeler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Multi-tasking? A nightmare... Summary: Well, let's take a sample... Message-ID: <358@mks.UUCP> Date: 22 Dec 87 15:26:00 GMT References: <2959@cbmvax.UUCP> <11191@oliveb.UUCP> <886@louie.udel.EDU> <3259@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu> Organization: Mortice Kern Systems, Waterloo, Ont. Lines: 45 In article <3259@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu>, davidli@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (Dave Meile) writes: > In article <886@louie.udel.EDU> rminnich@udel.EDU (Ron Minnich) writes: > > > >I can't believe this discussion. Here we are, all us good hacker > >types, arguing that Joe Average is Too Limited, The Poor Soul, > >to really Appreciate the Beauty of Multi-Tasking (*cue Heavenly Choir*) > Actually, the argument is "Joe Average doesn't NEED Multi-Tasking to > accomplish the primary uses of a home computer" > > The 'oh but desk accessories are ok' is a specious argument. > >Desk accessories are a kludge-o form of multi-tasking. If you > >want to argue that Desk Accessories are a good thing, then you > >are arguing FOR multi-tasking. > Desk accessories (and maybe context switching) are all you NEED. > It's a nice fribjob, but not necessary to do stuff. I've been following this for a couple of days, and here's my two cents: Having used a multi-tasking OS on a PC (QNX -- not a bad system) for several years, I found that I tended to use it as a "switcher". That is, I would run one program in one virtual screen, and run another in a different screen. A hotkey is used to flip screens, up to a maximum of four. Now, QNX does offer Unix-type background tasks, but I didn't use them much. If your background compile runs amuck, it's hard to get back under control. However, I don't think anyone has considered that one program, from the user's point of view, may actually be composed of two cooperative tasks. For example, a terminal emulator can have an input task and an output task, each of which blocks when it has nothing to do. There's a case when multi-tasking is nice even when you're only doing one thing. So, my vote goes for multi-tasking. You can do full-blown power things if you want, you can do "switching" if you want, you can do just one thing if you want, but at least you have the choice. Granted, a single- tasking system is "all you need" to do work, but if the multi-tasking system can be provided for reasonable cost, would you turn it down? So, did I hear someone say they were offering a multitasking version of GEMDOS for my ST? :-) (And when will ST Minix be ready?) (And when will the price come down on ST Idris?) -- Gerry Wheeler Phone: (519)884-2251 Mortice Kern Systems Inc. UUCP: uunet!watmath!mks!wheels 35 King St. North BIX: join mks Waterloo, Ontario N2J 2W9 CompuServe: 73260,1043