Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!cbmvax!hedley From: hedley@cbmvax.UUCP (Hedley Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Anyone using Geos ? Message-ID: <3062@cbmvax.UUCP> Date: 31 Dec 87 20:04:18 GMT References: <173@sdrc.UUCP> <666@umbc3.UMD.EDU> Reply-To: hedley@cbmvax.UUCP (Hedley Davis) Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA Lines: 43 Keywords: geos ram exapansion In article <666@umbc3.UMD.EDU> pete@umbc3.UMD.EDU (Pete Hsi (C)) writes: > >In article <173@sdrc.UUCP> crgabb@sdrc.UUCP (Rob Gabbard) writes: >> >> I'm thinking about purchasing Geos and using it with the new >>1764 256K RAM expansion for the 64. I'm also going to purchase the 1351 Mouse >>and a 1200 baud modem (I'm still dragging around with a 1650). I've got a > >BUT I won't recommend it or the following reasons: >4. It has different drivers for different input devices (joystick, > mouse, touch-tablet, etc). I have tried it with the mouse and joystick... > pretty inaccurate and is especially fusterating to use with GEO-Draw. > (try this: draw a circle with GEOS and try it with a Amiga or Mac... > you will see there is a huge difference) Uh... I think you may have been using the 1350 mouse, or using the 1351 mouse in joystick ( 1350 equivelence ) mode. If you use geos with the 1351 mouse running in proportional mode, I think you find the cursor responce to be very good. You can draw circles or whatever just fine. GEOS was originally designed for joystick usage. In that mode, whether you use a joystick, 1350 mouse, or 1351 mouse in joystick mode, you can only draw sort of octogonal types of things. Using the 1351 in proportional mode yeilds Amiga or MAC like hand drawn circles. The 1351 mouse driver for GEOS comes on the demo disk for the 1351. >5. It is a disk-intensive program. Even with the 1541 speed-up feature, > response times are not fast enough! For example, if you are writing a long > paper with different fonts, frequent disk accesses are neccessary to > to scroll though the buffer and to retrieve the different fonts. > (I don't know if c64 GEOS supports the memory expension-I know c128 > GEOS supports it. if it does, then this point is moot.) The point is moot, because GEOS for the 64 supports the 1764. Responce times increase dramtically. > Hedley ( 1351 designer, 1764 RAMDOS writer )