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From: kraut@ut-emx.UUCP (kraut)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: DA LaserWriter Printing (really: how to post to SUMEX)
Message-ID: <389@ut-emx.UUCP>
Date: 20 Dec 87 08:12:41 GMT
References: <3241@bnrmtv.UUCP> <46100034@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> <693@ur-tut.UUCP>
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
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Summary: how to post to  SUMEX and comments regarding the flow of binaries

In article <693@ur-tut.UUCP>, dhac@ur-tut.UUCP (Darren Jay Hacker) writes:

> the flow of comp.binaries.mac increase!  (BTW, how does one post to SUMEX?)

actually, there is not much need to post to INFO-MAC directly, as the readers
of INFO-MAC have summaries available of the articles appearing here.  (you
may have noticed the announcements in INFO-MAC of DELPHI and USENET digests)

however, just for the curious, you can submit articles to any ARPA-bboard
or the group-moderators by sending Email to the group just as you would to
any individual on ARPA (the distinction between Email and Bboards on ARPA
is different from news and mail with uucp), in other words, to submit an
article to appear in INFO-MAC you send mail to (for example)

	INFO-MAC%SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU@harvard.uucp
or	.....!harvard!sumex-aim.stanford.edu!info-mac

you can replace "harvard" with the ARPA-gateway nearest you.

Also, any ARPA-gateway worth the name should have an alias which does
automatic mail-forwarding, so that sending mail to info-mac@harvard.uucp
should cause the mail to get forwarded to info-mac@sumex.stanford.edu,
but then again, that would, probably, be too easy ...

and a real user-friendly UUCP-site might make life easier for their users
by providing a site-alias "arpa-gateway" and "csnet-gateway" and ...
which would point to the nearest gateway (such that the individual users
would never have to worry or learn those magical names); then users could
send mail to:

	info-mac%sumex.stanford.edu@arpa-gateway.uucp

now the totally, user-friendly system-administrator would create an entry
in /usr/lib/aliases for info-mac (and other groups) with the proper magic
such that his local users could send mail directed to "info-mac" and never
have to wonder or learn how the mail actually gets there ....

another interesting (and little-known?) fact is that if you "follow-up"
to a moderated news-group, your article will often be converted into a
mail-message to the moderator of that group - but I am not very confident
that replying to an article in comp.sys.mac.digest would trigger such a
mail-msg to the moderator.  In the case of INFO-MAC (and several other
popular groups) the moderator often found himself unable to deal with
the additional load from non-ARPA readers and discouraged such msg-traffic.

BTW, I am also very dissatisfied with the msg-traffic in ~binaries.mac
and would like to suggest that we have more than one submitting moderator,
specially as I have seen major disruptions to groups when they relied
(depended?) on a single individual finding the time to do the work (remember,
it's time one has to find outside of working hours and duties imposed by
non-electronic beings :-)  I, for one, would be glad to help out with some
of the work.  In particular, I was thinking of offering to work together
with the people at SUMEX in making available new items announced in INFO-MAC
(and archived in the SUMEX and SIMTEL archives).  I used to do such forwarding
in an irregular fashion (before we renamed net.micro.mac and created a
moderated group for binaries ....) but suggested that this be automated
somehow so that things get submitted directly from Stanford when the files
get archived.  I still think that's the way of doing it with the least
wasted effort, but ....
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