Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!ames!sdcsvax!sdics!norman From: norman@sdics.ucsd.EDU (Donald A. Norman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Converting between Mac and MS-DOS Message-ID: <446@sdics.ucsd.EDU> Date: 26 Dec 87 00:05:23 GMT Reply-To: norman@sdics.UUCP (Donald A. Norman) Organization: UC San Diego Institute for Cognitive Science Lines: 41 The program "Apple File exchange," which Apple now provides on the system disks, looks like it should do convert diskettes or files from Mac format to MS-DOS format. (It also claims to convert between PRODOS (for the Apple II) and Mac.) But the MS-DOS menu items are always dimmed. If I insert an unformatted diskette, I can format it for the Mac or for PRODOS, but the MS-DOS option is dimmed. Similarly, if I format a diskette for MS-DOS (using an IBM clone, of course) , Apple File exchange says it is an unreadable diskette and refuses to handle it. (With a PRODS formatted diskette, it works just as advertised.) Am I doing something worng, or is the program not really working as advertised. There is a tiny amount of on-screen documentation. But I can't find any printed documntation (it is suposed to be in the Utilities manual, but it ain't). Hypothesis 1: Apple hasn't yet gotten around to impoementing the MS-DOS translation rountines, so the program is realy vaporware. Hypothesis 2: I am doing something wrong, like not holding down the hyper-shift-command key while triple clicking. Anybody know the answer? (I have version 1.0.1) (The Prodos conversion routines seem to work. They even come with tear-off menus, as in Hypercard, except there is absolutely no functionality to them except to show the cleverness of the programmer. Apple: your user interface guidelines are slipping again. To say nothing of your creditbility if it turns out that you haven't implemented the MS-DOS conversion reoutines yet.) don norman Donald A. Norman Institute for Cognitive Science C-015 University of California, San Diego La Jolla, California 92093 INTERNET: norman%ics@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu INTERNET: danorman@ucsd.edu BITNET: danorman@ucsd.bitnet ARPA: norman@nprdc.arpa UNIX:{decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!sdcsvax!ics!norman