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From: gleicher@duke.cs.duke.edu (Michael Gleicher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: Re: Macs, IBMs, and compatibility.
Message-ID: <10902@duke.cs.duke.edu>
Date: 8 Jan 88 16:14:04 GMT
References: <37250@sun.uucp> <11540095@hpsmtc1.HP.COM> <880@unccvax.UUCP>
Reply-To: gleicher@duke.UUCP (Michael Gleicher)
Organization: Duke University, Durham NC
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Posted: Fri Jan  8 11:14:04 1988

Up until 2 weeks ago, I was an avid MacHater & PC user. But I have seen
the light, so I have some comments.
I'm absolutely sick of the debate, but at least I now can see both sides.
There are pros to the PC world, but they weren't discussed here.
Please flame me directly. (this article is not meant as a blow to the
author, or to convey a "mines better", more like "gather all evidence and
consider it before you talk")

In article <880@unccvax.UUCP> cbenda@unccvax.UUCP (carl m benda) writes:
>
>As a PS/2 model 80 owner, I have a few objections.......
>
>A.	My 1 megabyte version came with enough memory to run
>	five (5) operating systems:
>		MS-DOS 3.3
>		XENIX (can you run UNIX on your 128k mac??)
>		CP/M
>		PC-MOS (a virtual 8086 os)
>		QNX
Let me see you run ANY of these on a 48K PC (yes some of us are long time PC
users). Don't knock a 128K mac unless you're going to compare it with its
equivalent, a 256K PC.

Besides, the 1 that I have on my Mac ][, has advantages over any of these
(except for 1 you don't mention): A graphical, windowing user interface that
is seemlessly integrated with all the old programs.

>B.	The next megabyte of memory cost me just $411 That works ...
I'd say you got ripped off. I payed $900 for 4 (count'em !) megabytes!
And, ALL my software can take advantage of it!

>C.	With this memory I had all I needed to run OS/2. And kermit
In a megabyte I could run any single program I have.
With 5, I can run a whole bunch.

>F.	Finally, IBM would much rather have you by a newer machine
>	than upgrade to a new one.  Ask an apple rep how to upgrade
>	your mac 128k so it will run the new apple multitasking os
>	A/UX... Ask him how to up grade it so it will have a color 
>	screen.... using APPLE products.
Score 1 for Apple. They acknowledge, accept, and encorage third party support.
IBM tries to scare it away.

Admittedly, there were some problems with the early machines.
Lack of expandability was the biggest. But apple has gotten better.

>reply to me...
>unccvax!cbenda@mcnc.org

Mike