Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!LL-VLSI.ARPA!malpass From: malpass@LL-VLSI.ARPA (Don Malpass) Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith.z100 Subject: Re: complain complain complain :-) Message-ID: <8712281511.AA06114@ll-vlsi.arpa> Date: 28 Dec 87 15:11:33 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 24 I second the motion. I bought the AT-clone for work with a keyboard layout that you describe, only because it was the lesser of two evils. Having two CRL keys is nice, but putting them where IBM did is dreadful. Now a question, which I would research myself if this clone came with any documentation: Do your "Delete" and "Backspace" (left- arrow) keys squirt out the codes you are used to with the Z-100? I use this clone to access 7 UNIX systems, some via Kermit and some via Ethernet (SUN NFS board in the AT - fantastic!), and I've had a heqq of a time beating all the .login files into submission to deal with both the AT, some terminals I occasionally use, FTP from other machines, and the [well-behaved] HZ-100 from home through a modem using BESTERM. It appears that my left-arrow does NOT put out -H, although it's not obvious that Kermit's simulation of a VT-100 isn't part of the problem. There's probably some PC-DOS program out there which would allow me to reprogram the keys (as Zenith made possible - perhaps too easy), but due to lack of documentation with this system, I haven't spent any time looking. It would be nice to set up the function keys easily too, and I'm sure there's a way. I'll have to borrow somebody's PC-DOS manual, except that every machine I can put my hands on is some sort of clone that has an almost-PC-DOS system (Compac, HP, etc). But it's still worth the pain not to have an IBM logo on my machine. don [malpass@LL-vlsi.arpa]