Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bbn!rochester!rocksanne!entire!news
From: news@entire.xerox.com (Usenet News Administrator)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: Returned mail with comp.binaries.ib
Message-ID: <3124@entire.xerox.com>
Date: 4 Jan 88 14:48:07 GMT
References: <34000001@silver>
Organization: Entire Inc, East Rochester, NY
Lines: 38
Summary: Submissions to moderated groups, all upstream sites have to know about
	 it.

In article <34000001@silver>, creps@silver.bacs.indiana.edu writes:
>    Every time I post something to comp.binaries.ibm.pc, it seems to be
> getting posted OK (other sites report receiving it), but a few days later
> I get a mail message telling me "returned mail." This message includes
> the file I posted. It may have something to do with the moderation change
> in the group, but I can't be sure.
>    Below is the header information from one of these returned mail messages,
> which all are coming from the same site.
> 
> >   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> >550 cwi.nl!comp-binaries-ibm-pc... User unknown
> >
> >   ----- Unsent message follows -----
> >Received: by mcvax.cwi.nl; Tue, 29 Dec 87 23:07:54 +0100 (MET)
> >Received: from ark.cs.vu.nl by botter.cs.vu.nl id aa08664; 29 Dec 87 23:00 MET

    I have seen this problem before, with 2.11 sites down stream of some 2.10.3.
I also suspect that the same thing could occur with 2.11 sites with not up to
date active files.  The posting site does not know that the group is moderated
and then sends the article out.  When it reaches a site that knows about the
moderation that sites mails the article to the moderator according to it's 
mailpaths file.  This will occur at all sites knowing about the moderation.
A couple of checks are probably needed.  Make sure that your site knows about
the moderation on the group, and that the mailpaths file is valid.  Also the
sites that see the "unapproved" article, the "news" administrator should get
nodification of the mail sent, needs to make sure that thier mailpath file
is valid.



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John A. Gallant                 UUCP:  {..}!rochester!rocksanne!entire!news
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