Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bbn!rochester!rocksanne!entire!uucp From: uucp@entire.xerox.com (UUCP Administrator) Newsgroups: news.newsites Subject: Re: Map addition for u.usa.ny.1, a new site: "entire". Message-ID: <3128@entire.xerox.com> Date: 4 Jan 88 23:29:02 GMT References: <3121@entire.xerox.com> <1777@epimass.EPI.COM> <2613@killer.UUCP> <2637@killer.UUCP> Organization: Entire Inc, East Rochester, NY Lines: 83 Summary: Holy Heat Wave Batman !! Boy am I glad I have on my flame resistant underwear. In article <2637@killer.UUCP>, billw@killer.UUCP (Bill Wisner) writes: > In article <1777@epimass.EPI.COM> jbuck@epimass.EPI.COM (Joe Buck) writes: > >>>Sorry, but we can't very well have every PC in the world on the UUCP > >>>map. > In article <2613@killer.UUCP> billw@killer.UUCP (yes, that's me) writes: > >>What an incredibly obnoxious statement. The mere fact that someone runs UNIX > >>on a small computer condemns them forever to forego representation in the > >>UUCP map? Thank you Bill, I couldn't have said it better myself. Perhaps I made a "oops" by including the letters "PC". In agreement with <365@spectrix.UUCP> Chris R. Lewis, this system is not a personal computer. The only "PC" part is the outer box and disk controller, the AT card form factor is used, 8 Meg of 32 bit RAM, 3 2400 baud modems, Micom INTERLAN ethernet card, two 9600 baud 8 port serial cards, and 200 Meg of disk storage. Is this you average mom and pop PC AT ? :-) Oh yes, I plan on going to an ARLL disk controller and 400 Meg of disk storage. > > In article <1788@epimass.EPI.COM> jbuck@epimass.EPI.COM (Joe Buck) writes: > >Bill, I'm sorry you took offense. But the UUCP map is already too > >big for PCs to deal with. > ... > ....................................Now, the flip side: there are zillions > of small organizations out there that have one single PC running UNIX which > serves as their sole link to the outside world. Map them! Map them! > I certainly prefer sending mail to user@obscure-site.UUCP than toiling > for an hour trying to come up with a path to obscure-site-neighbor. > Our site can be considered a small organization, we have about 70 people and about 70 PC AT's running MS DOS and 5 Unix stations, all are using the Intel 80386 mother board, and linked via SMTP. The node "entire" is our only! UUCP link to the outside world. > > Entire's case is.. strange. My impression is that Entire is a seperate > company that plans to harbor itself under the xerox.com domain for mail > benefits. If that is the case, I can see a seperate map entry for a > seperate entity. If, on the other hand, it is a subsidiary, then let it > be handled by the xerox.com gateway. > We are effectivly a seperate company, and yes I was hoping to "harbor" ourselves under the xerox.com domain for mail. At some point the UUCP map entry for Xerox in Webster (rocksanne), which is a little old "01/23/85", will be updated to contian our link with them. At this point, and the main problem that I am having is there is not a map for xerox.com in the UUCP domain. It exists for DARPA and a couple of internets for xerox. I am sure that the DARPA network does not need to know about us. So that leaves me with two options. First, work with the administrator of xerox.com, whomever he is, the SA of rocksanne is helping me with this angle, and "map" us in the UUCP overlay of the DARPA map for Xerox. And the second is to purchase a domain under com.UUCP, and call us entire.com, I am also looking into this possiblity. Either way the map information that I posted will still probably go into the UUCP maps. I posted the entry to news.newsites to simply allow SA's who want to keep the map entries up to date, that is if they enjoy adding in "about 1000" sites a year :-), and to say to the world "Hello out there". When I was trying to set up an "sc.harris.com" map entry, the map people recomended that I post to newsites and have the administrator of ".harris.com" add us to their map entry. Well following that advice for entire, I have posted the map and I am working on the approval, as I tried to state in the posting. I am currently handling mail and news for a down stream site and I expect that when rocksvax, another local hub, officially goes away I may be picking up a few more. I am trying to setup a valid UUCP site, not a fly by night 'puter sitting out there. I apologize to those on the net who were offended, and for the excess traffic on the net. Once I have this mapping grief handled, anyone from xerox.com or the UUCP mapping people out there????, I will be as happy as a pig in sh*t. To quote a phrase: "Thank you for your support.". -- John A. Gallant UUCP: {..}!rochester!rocksanne!entire!uucp Defacto UUCP Administrator Entire Inc./Xerox I don't mind lying, but I hate inaccuracy. Samuel Butler