Xref: utzoo sci.space:4120 sci.crypt:716 Path: utzoo!linus!husc6!bloom-beacon!athena.mit.edu!jfc From: jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr) Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.crypt Subject: Re: satellites Keywords: resolution Message-ID: <2209@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> Date: 10 Jan 88 02:02:42 GMT References: <873@uop.edu> <2166@umd5.umd.edu> <4910@well.UUCP> <1952@netsys.UUCP> Sender: daemon@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU Reply-To: jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr) Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 46 In article <1952@netsys.UUCP> wb8foz@netsys.UUCP (David Lesher) writes: >>>? "Satellite saw Waite, newspaper says" >>>Uh-huh.... apply NaCl liberally.. >On the other hand, several public sources have reported that >resolutions good enough to read the brand of coffin nails >being smoked by the guard on duty in Moscow are in use. >If you combine that with the art of *interpretation*, >it is not unreasonable that the >distinctive, big bulky fellow walking outside the isolated house >in a area of interest, surrounded by guards with AK-47s is >Terry Waite. I suggest the book "Deep Black" >on the subject of remote imagery. I haven't read the book, but there is a simple argument against such resolution. Cameras in orbit are limited either by diffraction or atmospheric conditions. A telescope at sea level, in perfect weather, is typically limited to no better than 1" (that is a unit of angle: 1 arc-second, not 1 inch). At 200 km this is a linear distance of 1 meter. I would believe that looking down from orbit would give a different result (though I don't know). An *absolute* limit on the resolution of an image is diffraction in the camera. For visible light (wavelength 5 X 10^-7 m), and a 1 meter lens or mirror on the satellite, the limit is about 10 cm. To distinguish an object of size 1 cm, a 10 meter lens/mirror would be needed. The Space Telescope, which has not been launched and is to my knowledge the largest mirror in or intended to be in space, is about 2 meters. The biggest telescope in the world is 6 meters. There are techniques for processing images distorted by the atmosphere or an imperfect lens, but they can not get an image to be better than the diffraction limit. I would be impressed if any intelligence agency could regularly scan a city at 4 inch resolution while also doing its other (presumably more important) business. (assuming B+W image, 256 intesity levels, 10 cm pixels, 2 km square area : 400 MB per image.) Unless the miltary or intelligence agencies are far ahead of anything I have read about in computer pattern recognition (or somehow learned exactly where to look), I would not believe the report "Satellite saw Waite". (Unless someone was *extremely* lucky). --John Carr