Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!gatech!mcnc!uvaarpa!umd5!brl-adm!cmcl2!phri!dasys1!gf From: gf@dasys1.UUCP (G Fitch) Newsgroups: sci.misc Subject: Black Holes II Message-ID: <2480@dasys1.UUCP> Date: 7 Jan 88 17:07:21 GMT Distribution: na Organization: The Big Electric Cat Lines: 33 ------ Since my last posting, I have read (mail or news) about a dozen wildly divergent reasons for believing in black holes. A few were cogent and have caused me to _partially_ revise my opinion. I had forgotten to consider that an object of nonzero mass cannot be accelerated to C (due to time dilation, increase of mass under acceleration, etc.) Therefore, no material object can ever quite get to an event horizon, or what would be an event horizon if anything could ever encounter it; it will spend eternity falling the last infinitesimal distance. During this process, it will still be able to "communicate" with the rest of the universe, in a manner of speaking. Thus, there is no "inside" to a black hole, because the black hole isn't there; it's just almost there. This almost-there black hole satisfies all the external requirements of a black hole I can think of (but I'm an infidel. The believers will have to speak for themselves.) It's there and it isn't there; everybody should be happy. Yesterday, I know not where I saw a hole that wasn't there.... My thanks to Mark W. Hopkins (U.Wisc./Milwaukee) and Doug Freyburger (Caltech) for their contribution to lightening or deepening my ignorance. They are of course not responsible etc. etc., and their views are different from mine. I think it would be interesting to discuss the religious requirements for reverence and doing-math- for-the-sake-of-doing-math in the sciences, but that's for a different newsgroup. -- G Fitch {uunet}!mstan\ The Big Electric Cat {ihnp4,harvard,philabs}!cmcl2!cucard!dasys1!gf New York City, NY, USA (212) 879-9031 {sun}!hoptoad/