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From: weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Obnoxious Math Grad Student)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Flamage re Mark Ethan Smith/Netiquette
Message-ID: <22591@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Date: 15 Jan 88 08:21:27 GMT
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In-reply-to: seth@ptsfa.UUCP (Seth Miller)

In article <4016@ptsfa.UUCP>, seth@ptsfa (Seth Miller) writes:
>Since I have never been involved in one of your flame wars before
>and I hope never to be involved in one again, I don't know which
>newsgroups you do read.  That is why the note I posted I cross posted
>to all the groups that YOU were cross posting to.  That way I could
>be sure you would get it as I am pretty sure you don't read soc.motss.

You could have also tried e-mail, like some other people did.  And if
you're so certain that I don't read soc.motss, then there was no need
for you to post there, now was there??

>You will notice that my second posting was not cross posted and was
>only posted to alt.flame.

Yes.  And that's where flame wars belong.  The article that you flamed
had not been a flame, just a polite reminder that your flame--which had
been posted in soc.motss--was based on inaccurate information.

Now why this polite reminder gets flamed, I really don't know.

>I don't understand why you say that my first posting was/is garbage.
>It doesn't seem like garbage to me.

It was garbage, in the sense of saying I was posting 3-year-old garbage
to soc.motss.  I wasn't.

>				      It seems like a very simple
>request for you to keep this stuff out of soc.motss.

It was more than a very simple request.  It was also insulting.  Mildly,
yes, but still insulting.

Now you tell me why my polite reminder counted as garbage?

>						       I really don't
>care who started it.  Whether it was MES or someone who broke into
>his/her account or you or your poltergeist or anyone.  It doesn't
>really matter.  We would just like it to stay out of soc.motss.

Well fine.  Next time you post such a request in soc.motss, leave
out complaints about me posting stuff that I haven't posted.  Indeed,
leave out any references to who is saying what, since it's only by
header information in the original that the weemba forgeries can be
identified as such.

>Why can't any of you honor a simple request like that.  It is not
>really asking all that much, is it?

It isn't hard.  So take your own advice, and don't motivate me to
make a simple polite corrective next time, and just ignore the
forger(s), eh?

>You know, you guys are supposed to be adults.  Why don't you start
>acting like adults and cut the bullshit.

If you're addressing me, just what bullshit are you talking about?

I apologize to the readers of this newsgroup for not posting a flame.

ucbvax!garnet!weemba	Matthew P Wiener/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720