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From: gazit@ganelon.usc.edu (Salit)
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Subject: Re: Risks ( was: Re: ABORTION  AIDS  CONNECTION)
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Date: 16 Jan 88 11:52:11 GMT
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In article <1571@codas.att.com> karthur@codas.att.com (Kurt_R_Arthur) writes:

>Although most (all?) of the pro-choicers will disagree,  I feel that within
>the next 40-50 years the main justification for abortion (ie, the fetus is not
>a person) will be used to justify successively the infirm, the handicapped,
>ind then extermination of one or more groups of people who presently are safe.
>These groups could be the poor, Jews, the Blacks, Catholics, Indians, or
>whatever.  In Nazi Germany Jews, Gypsies, and other ethnic groups were declared
>as 'less than human', thus the horror of the Holocaust was enabled because to
>many, the killing these groups was no different than killing stray animals in a
>dog pound.

Dear Kurt (I just love this name) claims that the groups that object to abortion
will protect the rights of minority groups.  It really nice of you to give such
promises, but I have the nasty habit of checking the past records. 

Did you ever check what the Pope had to say when
>In Nazi Germany Jews, Gypsies, and other ethnic groups were declared
>as 'less than human'.
?
(In case you don't know, the Catholic Church is a strong anti-abortion group.) 

Let me cite you a paragraph from "The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich".
"the Nazi government concluded a contract with the Vatican in which it
guaranteed the freedom of the Catholic religion and the right of the Church
'to regulate her own affairs.'  The agreement, signed on behalf of Germany by
Papen and of the Holy See by the then Papal Secretary of State, Monsigor
Pacelli, later Pope Pius XII,
..........
the contract undoubtly lent the Hitler government much badly needed prestige."

And if you think that the Pope had any reservation about given the Hitler
government support in critical moment, you are wrong.

"In an allocution to the Sacred Colledge on June 2, 1945, Pope Pius XII
defended the contract which he had signed,"

And now, Kurt assures me that the anti-abortion groups who gave Hitler
"badly needed prestige" will protect me.

Dear Kurt this news group is alt.flame not rec.macabre.humor.

As a protection against extermination, I trust much more the feminist and gay
organizations.  I believe that those people will protect me not because
I'm a gay or a woman (I'm not) but because they smart enough to understand
who will be the next in line.

>Kurt Arthur

Hillel Gazit       gazit%ganelon.usc.edu@oberon.usc.edu