Xref: utzoo misc.legal:3273 soc.men:2403 soc.women:8838 soc.motss:3385 alt.flame:1351 Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdcad!ames!netsys!killer!era From: era@killer.UUCP (Mark E. Smith) Newsgroups: misc.legal,soc.men,soc.women,soc.motss,alt.flame Subject: Re: Flamage re Mark Ethan Smith/Netiquette Summary: Cracker alert! Message-ID: <2939@killer.UUCP> Date: 16 Jan 88 14:11:49 GMT References: <229*manis@instr.camosun.bcc.cdn> <6466@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> <8801071134.AA05730@garnet.berkeley.edu> <3031@killer.UUCP> <22556@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <31O8@killer.UUCP> <1841@epimass.EPI.COM> Reply-To: era@killer.UUCP (Mark Ethan Smith) Followup-To: alt.flame Organization: The Unix(R) Connection BBS, Dallas, Tx Lines: 49 In article <1841@epimass.EPI.COM> jbuck@epimass.EPI.COM (Joe Buck) writes: >In article <31O8@killer.UUCP> era@killer.UUCP (Mark Ethan Smith) writes: > >The article I'm following up to is a forgery. Note the Message-ID: it >has an O instead of a zero in the number. Using postnews or Pnews >(from rn) will never generate an article of this kind. Will whoever >is doing this please stop? It's not amusing any more. Thanks, Joe. It *is* sort of amusing to notice the people who don't bother to look at the header and assume that I might post something like those forgeries. They are *all*, without exception, people who have flamed me, attacked me, and made attacks on my humanity or denied me equal terms in the past. To those in soc.motss who are so irate about this material being posted to their group, the original "8th Wonder" article was posted to soc.motss. Can you think why an article attacking somebody for being "dickless" might be posted to a group that judges people by whether or not they have a dick? Are you sure the person who wanted to show you his contempt for women isn't one of yours? I've noticed that overt contempt for women has become less overt among gays since AIDS, but I rather doubt that it has disappeared completely. Certainly nobody from your group has protested the "dickless" attack as being inappropriate. I don't know how these forgeries are being done. I suspect that they have to access my account on killer to do it, so I've changed my password again. That may or may not help. Please read the article before responding. Check the header. If you have been reading my articles for several years, looking for evidence of the "paranoia," "psychosis," and tendency to "attack" people that flamers persistently attribute to me, without finding any such evidence, and are now happy to find such evidence in the forged articles, check your prejudgments before responding. If I actually were paranoid or psychotic, or actually attacked people who hadn't attacked me first, the cracker wouldn't have to go to such trouble to make it look as if I did. If you mailed a vote on soc.equal-rights andor comp.human-rights and it bounced, please post something and we'll try to get a mailpath. I've received very few votes, but the "no" votes are so emphatic and full of stuff like, "NO NO NO NO NO! The flames are the only fun in soc.women," that I believe there would be more such "no" votes if not for mailer problems. So far the "no" votes greatly outnumber the "yes" votes, but not by 90%, indicating that there might be a number of male posters who do not oppose equal rights, but haven't voted. --Mark