Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!dayton!jad From: jad@dayton.UUCP (John A. Deters) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Cultural Impact on Word Ordering in any Language Message-ID: <3037@dayton.UUCP> Date: 19 Jan 88 04:04:13 GMT References: <1671@russell.STANFORD.EDU> Reply-To: jad@dayton.UUCP (John A. Deters) Organization: Dayton-Hudson Dept. Store Co. Lines: 31 In-Reply-To: <142@blic.BLI.COM> You may be on the right track comparing word ordering to the agricultural origins of the people. It may be based more on the stability (or relative mobility) of the people who speak it, and the Japanese, being primarily agricultural, have been very stable, location-wise. The English (Germanic) peoples, being originally hunters, were substantially more mobile. The Japanese culture has been in place for many thousands of years, and they have not left a very small geographic location. Their language has stabilized. English, French, and Russian, on the other hand, have derived from a more mobile people who were moved about substantially due to wars, invasions, etc. In English, we all know that the verbs can come almost anywhere. In French, also, the verb can come between the subject and the object. The French language is a Latin-based language somewhat similar to English, and the culture is roughly the same age. Modern Russian (from what I could glean from a friend) also has a flexible structure allowing the verb to come anyplace in a sentence, and it too came from a mobile culture. My friend also brought up an interesting point from this -- it would be nice to hear from someone who knows Hebrew, the language of the "race of wanderers". It might be an answer in this mobile language theory, and to find out what the sentence structure is like in that language would prove interesting. P.S. Any racial references are not* to be construed as slurs! -- -john deters Dayton Hudson Department Store Company uucp: rutgers!dayton!jad MIS 1060/700 on the Mall/Mpls, MN 55402 ARTHUR: "A scratch? Your arm's off!" BLACK KNIGHT: "It's only a flesh wound."