Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!bcsaic!rwojcik From: rwojcik@bcsaic.UUCP (Rick Wojcik) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: words order in English and Japanese Message-ID: <3532@bcsaic.UUCP> Date: 18 Jan 88 23:18:21 GMT References: <1671@russell.STANFORD.EDU> Reply-To: rwojcik@bcsaic.UUCP (Rick Wojcik) Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle Lines: 31 Summary: There is no relationship between word order and culture The original comment was that Japanese and English word orders are somehow affected by the type of culture that the speakers have. The question of what causes different word orders is very interesting, and it is covered in great detail in the linguistic literature. The issue is not just between English and Japanese, but between global language types. Verb-first and verb-medial languages tend to have very different syntax from verb-last languages such as Japanese. For example, the former tend to have prepositions/prefixes and the latter postpositions/suffixes. Auxiliary verbs precede the main verb in the former, but they follow in the latter. In other words, there is a kind of "head-first/head-final" dichotomy among the world's languages, although this is an overly simple way of putting it. It is easy to show that the hunter/farmer distinction is irrelevant to the question of word-order typology. Word order types are distributed randomly over all types of cultures as far as we can tell. Furthermore, Indo-European languages, of which English belongs to the Germanic branch, appear to have descended from the verb-last type--i.e. structurally parallel to Japanese. So the change to verb-medial structure would have to be connected with a cultural shift from farming to hunting, according to the hypothesis offered. Verb-last languages are so common in the world that it would be very difficult to find a cultural common denominator to explain their existence. Finally, this topic really belongs in sci.lang. It has little to do with AI. In fact, there has been much discussion on this topic in that newsgroup. -- =========== Rick Wojcik rwojcik@boeing.com