Xref: utzoo comp.unix.wizards:6119 comp.arch:3149 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!ames!sdcsvax!ncr-sd!greg From: greg@ncr-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Greg Noel) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards,comp.arch Subject: Re: Jerry Pournelle on UNIX (From BYTE) Message-ID: <1971@ncr-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM> Date: 7 Jan 88 06:04:22 GMT References: <1495@osiris.UUCP> <2126@haddock.ISC.COM> <1497@osiris.UUCP> Reply-To: greg@ncr-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Greg Noel) Organization: NCR Corporation, Rancho Bernardo Lines: 25 In article <1497@osiris.UUCP> mjr@osiris.UUCP (Marcus J. Ranum) writes: > There would be a few problems with making UNIX ROM-only - at least >the root file system: there are all the various files in /etc that do >benefit from the occasional change. Difficult, yes, but not impossible. For a long time, the Air Force supported a Unix system with a read-only root -- they wanted to have a simple recovery proceedure in case of a failure to boot. This was prior to the hardening of the filesystem, so a failure to boot was a real problem -- any crash while modifying the root could cause it. To always be able to just load the root from tape and boot was a blessing. > I also see making parts of UNIX (sh ?) in ROM as a bad idea .... >If we had to unplug chips and bring an engineer in [for every fix] ... >it would cost someone too much somewhere, .... Possible -- but instead of ROM chips, how about a CD-ROM? A compact disk is more than 500 megabytes, the drives are getting cheaper every day, and the disk is very inexpensive to replace -- and the users could replace it themselves. It's possible that the generic personal computer of the future will routinely have a CD-ROM inside it to provide all of the "standard" features that people are beginning to expect in their machines. -- -- Greg Noel, NCR Rancho Bernardo Greg.Noel@SanDiego.NCR.COM or greg@ncr-sd