Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!ucsd!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!hplabs!hp-pcd!uoregon!omepd!mipos3!td2cad!cpocd2!howard From: howard@cpocd2.UUCP (Howard A. Landman) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: RISC criteria (was Intel 432) Message-ID: <1095@cpocd2.UUCP> Date: 28 Jan 88 22:10:14 GMT References: <243@spar.SPAR.SLB.COM> <2707@omepd> <1071@cpocd2.UUCP> <7246@apple.UUCP> <701@PT.CS.CMU.EDU> Reply-To: howard@cpocd2.UUCP (Howard A. Landman) Organization: Intel Corp. ASIC Systems Organization, Chandler AZ Lines: 25 In article <1071@cpocd2.UUCP> howard@cpocd2.UUCP (Howard A. Landman) writes: >If anyone sees a photo of the chip, here's an easy way to tell RISC from CISC: >Identify the datapath and RAM (including register file and cache). If they >add up to less than half the chip area, it's a CISC. That's because the rest >is probably all control, and any chip that's more than half control does not >have a simple architecture. In article <701@PT.CS.CMU.EDU> lindsay@K.GP.CS.CMU.EDU (Donald Lindsay) writes: >Some recent chips seem to put more real estate into bonding pads and pin >drivers, than into anything else. I assume that the power consumption is >there, too. As linewidths shrink, pads do not, so they do consume a lot of nanoacreage. This was so obvious to me that I didn't even think to mention it. To be accurate, I should have said "the chip core area (excluding pads)", not "the chip area". Sorry if anyone got confused. As I've pointed out in another posting, this was meant to be a quick rule of thumb for guessing, not a definition of RISC or CISC. -- Howard A. Landman {oliveb,hplabs}!intelca!mipos3!cpocd2!howard howard%cpocd2.intel.com@RELAY.CS.NET "... all the words float in sequence. No one knows what they mean, ..."