Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!homxb!whuts!mtune!rutgers!ucla-cs!cit-vax!tybalt.caltech.edu!awr From: awr@tybalt.caltech.edu (Bruce Rossiter) Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Moria sources on simtel20.arpa Keywords: Moria, Simtel20 Message-ID: <5332@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Date: 27 Jan 88 02:57:34 GMT References: <600@udccvax1.acs.udel.EDU> <4359@uwmcsd1.UUCP> Sender: news@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu Reply-To: awr@tybalt.caltech.edu.UUCP (Bruce Rossiter) Distribution: na Organization: Hackers Anonymous Lines: 46 len@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Leonard P Levine) writes: >relkins@vax1.acs.udel.EDU (Rob Elkins) writes: >>Has anyone had any success downloading the moria.arc file from simtel20.arpa >>in the pd1: directory? We can't unarc it once we get it, as >>the archive seems to be corrupted. I am using an 8 bit transfer in ftp. > >I am having the same problem with a unix system here with any of the arc'd >material. My local wizards do not understand the problem. Any help? "An" 8 bit transfer. Which one? Tenex or Binary? What kind of machine are you using? The following info is taken from SIMTEL-ARCHIVES.INFO - a file *everyone* using simtel20 should read. If this doesn't help, send me mail and I'll try to help you further. I transferred the moria files with no problems..... ---------------------------Begin included text---------------------------- FILE TYPES [....] All binary data are stored as four 8-bit bytes per 36-bit SIMTEL20 word, with the low-order four bits of each word filled with zeros. If such a file is interpreted as a contiguous string, as will happen if a straight binary transfer is made to a 16 or 32-bit UNIX machine, the four zero filler- bits per 36-bit group will cause rather bizarre and frustrating results. FILE TRANSFER VIA FTP [....] Users of TOPS-10, TENEX, TOPS-20 or ITS systems can use "image" or "paged" mode for ALL transfers. UNIX users must use "ascii" mode for ASCII files, and "type tenex" or "type L 8" mode for binary files. ----------------------------End included text----------------------------- If you are on a MULTICS system, this file also contains a lengthy example on how to transfer binary files. -Bruce -------- "Look out the left, the captain said :: awr@tybalt.caltech.edu The lights down there, that's where we'll land. :: bruce@caltech.BITNET I saw a falling star burn up :: {amdahl,rutgers}!cit-vax! Above the Las Vegas sands." - Joni Mitchell :: tybalt.caltech.edu!awr