Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hscfvax!pavlov From: pavlov@hscfvax.harvard.edu (G.Pavlov) Newsgroups: comp.databases Subject: Re: Data vs Application oriented design Message-ID: <497@hscfvax.harvard.edu> Date: 14 Jan 88 17:25:58 GMT References: <12673@pyramid.pyramid.com> <69@coot.AUSTIN.LOCKHEED.COM> Organization: Health Sciences Computing Facility, Harvard University Lines: 19 Keywords: relational,network,comparison > Heretical statement follows: > > Thus it follows that the Relational model is a SUBSET of the network model. > > OOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhh boy, that ought to generate some flames! > > Chris Wood > I would say that the case is more that the principles embodied in the rela- tional model are "universal" data organization principles. E.g., we tried, to whatever extent possible, to apply normalization, reduce redundancy, etc, while we were still using Codasyl-based systems. Packages which present a relational logical view to the programmer have the attribute of making it easier to adhere to these principles. I say "logi- cal view" because in reality, are there any systems out there which are truly relational internally ? greg pavlov, fstrf, amherst, ny