Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!burl!codas!killer!elg From: elg@killer.UUCP (Eric Green) Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: Ph.D.'s and Teaching Message-ID: <2804@killer.UUCP> Date: 12 Jan 88 06:54:19 GMT References: <1759@rayssd.RAY.COM> Organization: Bayou Telecommunications Lines: 41 in article <1759@rayssd.RAY.COM>, hxe@rayssd.RAY.COM (Heather Emanuel) says: > will follow. However, it is THE INSTRUCTOR'S RESPONSIBILITY to > ensure that the students are learning, not the the students' I don't believe that to be true. I think the instructor's responsibility ends at presenting the material clearly, providing feedback, and all those other things that make up good teaching. The instructor isn't a babysitter who has to ram learning down the throats of the class. At any public university, you will, in the freshman classes, encounter people who simply do not have the talent to do the work. This is sad, but, alas, true. Attribute it to poor public education, supression of intellectual thought by "passive" entertainment such as television, or other things wrong in their background, but this is simply a fact that cannot be denied. Laying the blame at the instructor's feet is unjustified. > There is an entire body of knowledge, constantly growing, on > Learning Theory. There are courses on Adult Learning Theory, Child > Learning Theory, Adult Education versus Adult Industrial Training, > and on and on. Of all the instructors I know -- at all levels and > in all disciplines -- maybe one in fifty has had any education in > these subjects. While this is all well and true, I don't think lengthy formal education in the subject is necessary for a college professor to learn what is necessary to teach mature, interested persons. I may have mentioned the single-semester course that our English department has, that all graduating PhD.'s in English are required to take, entitled "Teaching English on the College Level". A single course like that should suffice for college-level instructing. If we start requiring a bevy of extraneous material, we may soon get into something like the current problem with high school science teachers... most of which know an aweful lot about how to teach, but not much at all about what they're teaching. And before you flame me, you better go look at your college's education catalog... I don't know about there, but here, the "science education" majors take watered-down science courses, that tell precious little about why the heck those equations actually work. I took a couple of those courses... childs play. -- Eric Lee Green elg@usl.CSNET Asimov Cocktail,n., A verbal bomb {cbosgd,ihnp4}!killer!elg detonated by the mention of any Snail Mail P.O. Box 92191 subject, resulting in an explosion Lafayette, LA 70509 of at least 5,000 words.