Path: utzoo!utgpu!tmsoft!mason From: mason@tmsoft.UUCP (Dave Mason) Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: Ph.D.'s and Teaching Message-ID: <261@tmsoft.UUCP> Date: 16 Jan 88 04:13:01 GMT References: <2144@uvacs.CS.VIRGINIA.EDU> <115@mccc.UUCP> <3469@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu> <429@sdcc15.UUCP> Reply-To: mason@tmsoft.UUCP (Dave Mason) Followup-To: comp.edu Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute, Toronto, Ontario Lines: 74 I thought I'd throw my $.02 worth into this discussion. It turns out to be a rather long $.02 worth, but the gist of it is: it's not clear to me that a teacher education course is going to help. I've been teaching Applied Computer Science for 6.5 years at Ryerson, an undergraduate university/polytechnic. Normally I teach 3rd & 4th year students. (I'm teaching 1st & 2nd this year, but that's a whole other story for another posting, another day.) I'm a good, but not great, teacher. I have difficulty understanding why my students don't understand my statements/explanations. Despite this I get a lot of respect and appreciation from my students. I see my job as to challenge the students, to push them where they wouldn't otherwise go (and judging by the moans and groans, I accomplish this :-). I run very interactive classes: in my compiler, graphics, and operating systems courses, I typically have 50-60 students in a lecture section, but insist on 15-20 per lab section so that the students can feel more comfortable to ask the questions that spark the learning: I set the challenges, provide the basic underpinnings of the facts & drag them kicking & screaming into asking the questions that I'm there to answer to fill in the gaps. This lets the student build the internal models that are most appropriate for them. I am constantly on the lookout for incorrect model building (i.e. the student asks x, I answer y, the student asks z, which lets me see that they are building the wrong model around the facts y, so I go back & correct their model). This is harder for the student... much easier to accept a model that someone else has structured; but also much easier to forget the foreign model... and once they've built their own model, they SHOULD have better intuition about the problem. I frequently am in the situation where there are no questions, but I'm sure it's because no one has a clue what's going on. My experience is that this is invariably a case of peer pressure: no one wants to look stupid (though it's often claimed to be that they don't know where to start, I've rarely found this to be the case...they just think the question they want to ask is too embarassingly trivial/simple). (This is why I have the small lab sections...fewer people means less peer pressure.) My usual response is to say something like: "If you have a question, ask it cuz there's probably several other people who have the same question, and are just too shy to ask." This usually gets a question, which leads to another & we make some progress. I have no formal training in teaching, but the first couple of years there were some workshops that I attended, although I don't think they were particularly helpful. They were taught by someone who used all the pedagogically sound principles, like `outline, describe, summary', lots of spiffy overheads, etc., and I thought they were PRETTY BORING. I like a VERY loose teaching style... maybe some notes, or a few minutes before class (often in the halls on the way to class :-) thinking about what I want to cover, then a willingness to go on a tangent if it seems helpful in class. When this doesn't work, it leads to disorganised classes, and wasted time. When it does work, it produces effective, interesting, alive presentations. (The trick of course being to have more of the latter classes than the former. :-) Today for example, I had a fairly (unusually :-) solid idea of what I wanted to talk about, and how I was going to present it. Somebody asked a question (looking for an example), and after about 15 seconds thinking, I structured the lecture around an example I had just thought of which, I feel, made for a much better class than the one I had planned. A couple of times I have taken notes that students have taken down in class, and photocopied them, and taught from those notes the following year (or 2, or 3, or ...). This is very seductive, as it is MUCH easier to do, but the resulting lectures seem very stiff, and rigid, and, well, ... LECTURES, rather than classes. Even the classes that had seemed so bright and alive the first time, seem dryer when taught from the notes. Well, I've rambled rather more than I intended. If you have comments (yay or nay) about my teaching (as biasedly described here), I'd appreciate mail. (And if you thought this was boring, I'm sorry, but writing it probably helped my teaching a bit, and reading it may help someone else). ../Dave