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From: benoni@ssc-vax.UUCP (Charles L Ditzel)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Sun or AT&T -- who blinked? (was: GNU Ramblings, Unix thoughts)
Summary: NeWS
Message-ID: <1640@ssc-vax.UUCP>
Date: 28 Jan 88 04:18:45 GMT
References: <153@mozart.UUCP> <1351@sugar.UUCP> <850@elmgate.UUCP> <167@ateng.UUCP>
Organization: Boeing Aerospace Corp., Seattle WA
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In article <167@ateng.UUCP>, chip@ateng.UUCP (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
> In article <1625@ssc-vax.UUCP> benoni@ssc-vax.UUCP (Charles L Ditzel) writes:
> >Yes is X is in current vogue. I don't agree that NeWS has lost, quite the
> >contrary, two major forces have source licenses :
> >   1) AT&T
> >   2) Microsoft
> >There are others...
> Do you think that everyone with a NeWS source license will sell it and
> support it?  That isn't a sure bet.
> 
Your right it isn't a sure bet.  But I think I would bet on NeWS as
being around quite a bit longer than X.

> >look for X for the next few years to be prominent, but the long term is
> >NeWS or a NeWS-like product.
> 
> NeWS-like product?  Sounds like Display Postscript to me.

No!!!!!  Display Postscript is an uninspiring product...  Further 
Display Postscript can't be compared to X or NeWS.  NeWS and X are 
networkable, multi-tasking, object-oriented window systems.  Display 
Postscript is not a window manager -- from what I have read -- they 
use the native window system of the machine they sit on.  DP 
doesn't understand networking or multi-tasking.  No. What I 
expect is further extensions to NeWS (3D ??).  

> I didn't say that it would be a bad environment to work in, but that the
> merge itself is a kludge.  NeWS and X are so large, and their world views
> so different, that any combination of the two cannot be pretty -- at least
> on the inside, where bugs and bug fixes and upgrades take place.

Perhaps you are right we have no way of knowing at this point.
Somehow you manage to avoid admitting that X is not powerful enough
to emulate NeWS - which was one of my main points.  NeWS is capable of
this type of emulation (of X).  

> (Hark! a voice in the wilderness:)
> 	"Why, oh why, does everyone forget Xenix?"
Mea culpa.