Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!BRILLIG.UMD.EDU!steve From: steve@BRILLIG.UMD.EDU (Steve D. Miller) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: MILNET/?/UMDNET/SURA/GWU-GATE traffic question Message-ID: <8801081314.AA15401@brillig.umd.edu> Date: 8 Jan 88 13:14:32 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 31 Subject: Re: MILNET/?/UMDNET/SURA/GWU-GATE traffic question From: Stephen Wolff What Record Route is showing you is the packet traveling from 128.167.33.1 - presumably the GWU_campus_net-to-SURANET P4200 gateway at GWU - (but why it spent so much time there I don't understand) to 128.167.11.2 - the next P4200 (which happens to be at NSF) - to the principal node of SURANET at University of Maryland, College Park, where it is loaded onto MILNET. That is in fact the most direct route there is. Indeed, that is the most direct route there is. However, one of the restrictions under which we at UMCP operate is that we can never ever forward packets from ARPANET, NSFNET, SURANET, et al. directly to MILNET. (Otherwise, we'd effectively be a mailbridge.) The only packets that can cross our MILNET gateway are those with an IP source address on network 128.8. (There is a hack in the kernel on maryland-gw.arpa (a 4.3BSD host) that enforces this restriction.) A quick peek at the UMCP ARPANET gateways tells me that they're routing MILNET traffic via DCEC-MILNET-GW.ARPA, at least for the moment. I don't have access to the UMCP SURANET gateways, so I don't know exactly what they want to do with MILNET traffic, but I assume they send it to the ARPANET gateways. If someone from SURANET is reading this, and could check the routing, that would be good... -Steve Spoken: Steve Miller Domain: steve@mimsy.umd.edu UUCP: uunet!mimsy!steve Phone: +1-301-454-1808 USPS: UMIACS, Univ. of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742