Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!ccq.bbn.COM!pogran From: pogran@ccq.bbn.COM (Ken Pogran) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: routing problems? Core gateways? Message-ID: <8801151726.AA20088@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 15 Jan 88 16:00:43 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 25 Mike, I can confirm that PSN 7.0 has NOT been installed in the MILNET yet, and there's no chance that that PSN was accidentally reloaded with PSN 7.0 software (hosts on that node wouldn't be able to communicate AT ALL with the rest of the MILNET if that had happened!). I'm not plugged in to the trouble-shooting process on the MILNET, so I can't speculate on what Brian's problem might actually be. I agree with you that the external symptoms do resemble the ARPANET PSN 7 "stuck VC" problem, but I think the explanation has to turn out to be quite different. Regards, Ken P.S.: With regard to the point that "only Sun users experienced the 'hung VC' problem with PSN 7.0", it's fair to say that Sun's was the only X.25 implementation that we FOUND on the ARPANET that encountered that problem; it's possible that other implementors could have made the same design decisions that Sun made and could have had the problem, too. But, as I said above, that's a PSN 7 problem and certainly isn't what Brian's seeing on the MILNET right now.