Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!sri-spam!ames!ucbcad!pasteur!ucbvax!MONK.PROTEON.COM!jas From: jas@MONK.PROTEON.COM ("John A. Shriver") Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Subject: (none) Message-ID: <8801192023.AA09447@monk.proteon.com> Date: 19 Jan 88 20:23:13 GMT References: <8801191247.aa08976@Louie.UDEL.EDU> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 16 Which version of SunOS? Some of them use the stock 4.3BSD telnet daemon, which has some quaintnesses in newline handling. The issue is that the 4.3BSD telnet daemon translated the "netascii" newline to a LF, rather than a CR. Now this should not have been a problem, since the also do not set CRMOD on the psuedo-tty. (Remember that UNIX's native terminal is a tty 37, which sends LF, not CR.) Unfortunately, while this worked fine on a cooked tty, it may not work optimally on a raw tty. Many applications operating in raw mode do not work with LF terminals, only with CR terminals. Data Workbench must be such a program. Because so many raw mode programs don't work with LF terminals (how many LF terminals are sold anymore?), Berkeley switched the telnet server back to typing CR, and setting CRMOD. You need to get the correct telnet daemon for the Sun.