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From: richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: The REAL problem is the nature of personal computers.
Message-ID: <2136@gryphon.CTS.COM>
Date: 14 Jan 88 07:26:16 GMT
References: <7967@g.ms.uky.edu> <1363@sugar.UUCP> <8692@ccicpg.UUCP> <8021@g.ms.uky.edu> <8870@ccicpg.UUCP> <38467@sun.uucp>
Reply-To: richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton)
Organization: Trailing Edge Technology, Redondo Beach, CA
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Summary: Just what do you call a personal computer ?

In article <38467@sun.uucp> cmcmanis@sun.UUCP (Chuck McManis) writes:
>Harald made some valid points about UNIX (tm) and its siblings. Basically
>while the kernel may be kept under 500K the utilities, tools and other
>stuff that everyone 'expects' UNIX to have usually add up to a lot of
>disk space. Added to that, UNIX processes can be fairly large and that
>requires virtual memory of some sort, etc, etc, etc. But then he goes on 
>and says ...
>In article <8870@ccicpg.UUCP> harald@ccicpg.UUCP ( Harald Milne) writes:
>>	In 5 years, I still have not seen a cheap and reasonable performance 
>>UNIX implemention for less than $5000. Im still waiting, I love UNIX, and
>>would love to have it at home.
>
>Five years ago (1983) the cry was for a UNIX system that cost less than 
>$10,000, and that has been reached by a number of people. (Maybe even 
>Apple :-)) It was only recently that the call went out for the $5K UNIX
>box, so maybe in another 5 years? Of course computers are on this strange
>exponential development path, maybe it will only take 2.5 years. 
>
>>	In summary, I don't feel UNIX is reasonable for the home computing

(forwarded from root@gryphon without permission)
(gryphon is a 286 running Xenix)

uh, and what is this I have here?  Oh, forgot, not real Unix.  Well, let
me tell you that after four days I got ksh to make "bus error" on the
[expletive deleted] cci machine.  Now I discover that cci doesn't seem to be
using SV directories.  Oh, well, it's real Unix.

So, what I have here -- real numbers -- retail -- with profit margins:

AT , 1 meg ram, 40meg hd, ega, mono monitor	2300
2nd 40 meg                                       600
Xenix                                            900
						-----
						3800  ( good for single user)
8 ports						 600
2.5 meg ram					 600
						----
						5000 ( you're running on it)


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