Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!tektronix!reed!kamath From: kamath@reed.UUCP (Sean Kamath) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: vaporware (another example) Message-ID: <8052@reed.UUCP> Date: 13 Jan 88 19:58:21 GMT References: <8801052337.AA15312@crash.cts.com> Reply-To: kamath@reed.UUCP (Sean Kamath) Organization: Reed College, Portland OR Lines: 62 OK, folks, I'm in a bad mood, so flames on . . . In article <8801052337.AA15312@crash.cts.com> pnet01!pro-sol!mdavis@nosc.MIL writes: >> I really want DOS to reside on the drive as well as proloss, so I decided >> on the Sider. >> What's that? They don't make the 40 meg 28ms seek time SCSI drive yet? > >What a laugh. If I were in a better mood, I'd make up something cute to say, istead of "go scr*w yourself." > DOS 3.3 on a hard disk (compared to ProDOS) is a slug. No >amount of tweaking of milleseconds for access time is going to improve it >very much, if at all. If you read your own quote above, I said "as well as ProDOS. And there are many reasons why DOS 3.3 is slow, most of which are gone now, what with Diversi-DOS and other hand patches. > Furthermore, DOS on a hard disk is practically a joke >in and of itself, due to the fact that you're limited by storage restrictions >imposed by ancient floppy-disk technology. Whilst true in one sense, in that I'm limited to 400K per volumn, I can have 254 volumns. . . But that's not the point. The point is, I have a *lot* of DOS 3.3 stuff, and I'll be damned if I'm going to give them up. So there. >Give me one or two large ProDOS volumes with a hierarchical filing system over >dozens of fixed-sized, file-count-limited DOS 3.3 volumes any day. Even ProGloss has it's own stupid 32M limit. So there. And I'd be willing to bet I can get a hierarchical file system running under DOS 3.3. Not that'd it'd be particularly fun to do. >Then again, I'll bet there are those who still think cassette storage >is superior over disk drives. Gads. And when your drives all magically fail, and you've just finished typeing in your 20 page grant proposal due tomorrow at 8 am, and it's 4 am, how are you going to save it and get it to a working computer? I bet you don't even know how to use the tape drive. Flames off. I'm sorry Morgan for being so nasty. But, well, it's been a tough day, and it's only noon. You may very well know how to use the tape drives. I don't even have one, but I have done it with my ancient tape player (wouldn't think of using my brand new Nakamiche!). I did not say I was going to use *nothing _BUT_ DOS 3.3*, I said I wanted it on there as well. And besides, on a //e, the old sider has to wait on the CPU anyway. Realy. Regardless of the OS. Sean Kamath -- UUCP: {decvax allegra ucbcad ucbvax hplabs ihnp4}!tektronix!reed!kamath CSNET: reed!kamath@Tektronix.CSNET || BITNET: reed!kamath@Berkeley.BITNET ARPA: tektronix!reed!kamath@Berkeley reed!kamath@hplabs US Snail: 3934 SE Boise, Portland, OR 97202 (I hate 4 line .sigs!)