Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ucbvax!FSU.BITNET!VAXPOST From: VAXPOST@FSU.BITNET (Testing Vax Bitnet Connection) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Unexpected status code returned by VMS MAIL \%X007E10A2\ Message-ID: <8801120109.AA08257@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 12 Jan 88 01:31:11 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 418 X-Unparsable-Date: 11-JAN-1988 19:07:48.31 --------------- A copy of your rejected mail message follows --------------- Received: by CANADA01 (Mailer X1.24) id 2133; Mon, 11 Jan 88 18:35:33 EDT Date: Mon, 11 Jan 88 13:45:43 PST Reply-To: Info-Atari16@Score.Stanford.edu Sender: INFO-A16@CANADA01 From: Info-Atari16@Score.Stanford.EDU Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V88 #11 To: PETCHER@GW.SCRI.FSU.EDU, DUBRAVK@FSU Info-Atari16 Digest Monday, January 11, 1988 Volume 88 : Issue 11 This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield Today's Topics: PrintMaster Icons Re: Double-Click Formatter Question Re: VCR -> Atari ST color monitor Re: Multiuser BBS graphic file interchange format Re: Multi-tasking? A nightmare... INTERRUPT PROCESSING Re: cartridge slot kludge boards 520ST Jittery Monitor Woes Re: graphic file interchange format Re: graphic file interchange format 40 folder limit Zoomracks (i.e. Hypercard's predecessor?) Re: graphic file interchange format INFORMATION ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 31 Dec 87 00:49:23 GMT From: clyde!watmath!dalcs!silvert@rutgers.edu (Bill Silvert) Subject: PrintMaster Icons To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu It is a long time since a nice set of PrintMaster icons was posted to this group. They are handy not only for PM use, but with a program by Sol Guber (shareware) you can convert them to Degas format for use with Publishing Partner, etc. I am looking for a tool to manage PM libraries. I would like to be able to read through a library and copy selected icons to a custom library. You can do this with PM itself, but the process is cumbersome. Does anyone have such a beast, or some related code that will help? What is the format of the library entries anyway? Are there any more PD libraries lurking out there? A large set was recently posted to a BBS that I run (almost 300 K!), but I spotted a couple of proprietary libraries in it and had to pull it off. It is a real pain trying to figure out what is and isn't PD! If there is interest, and if I can figure out what is PD in the arc file, I will post some of the libraries. Any information or any files and PM utilities that anyone can post or send would be welcome. By the way, the file includes a program that is supposed to dump an icon library to the printer. It doesn't seem to work well, but the output on my SMM804 makes me think it may work on a true Epson. If you want to try it, send mail to ...!dalcs!biomel (if you send it to this address I won't send it -- You have to use the correct address!). -- Bill Silvert, Modelling/Statistics Group, Biological Sciences Branch Bedford Institute of Oceanography, Dartmouth, NS, Canada B2Y 4A2 UUCP: ...!{uunet,utai,watmath}!dalcs!biomel!bill CDN or BITNET: biomel@cs.dal.cdn ------------------------------ Date: 31 Dec 87 04:23:10 GMT From: nuchat!uhnix1!uhnix2!uace0@uunet.uu.net (Michael B. Vederman) Subject: Re: Double-Click Formatter Question To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Rick Flashman asks: Are the authors of DC Format n the Net. There is a bug. We are on the net. We had this reported o us by Simon Poole a while back. This was fixed, but what version are you running? One of the Oold versions didn't work right. The latest posted version is either 2.32 or 2.31 I belive. Check the version and let us know. BTW - Look for a desk acces@sory version very soon, which has background formatting. And with our product to download in the background, to be sold by Antic (:-) a little plug), I can now download, word process, and format at the same time. I believe this isn't bad for a non-multqitasking environment. Was't that the ultimate test? - Mike -- #-----------------------------------------------------# University (of Houston) # It is morally wrong to let a sucker keep his money. # Atari Computer #-----------------------------------------------------# Enthusiasts (UACE) Use Atarinet: for help, interactively send a message to UH-INFO@UHUPVM1 ------------------------------ Date: 30 Dec 87 15:24:05 GMT From: clyde!burl!codas!mtune!mtgzz!drutx!jhs@rutgers.edu (ShoreJ) Subject: Re: VCR -> Atari ST color monitor To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu in article <3257@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>, engst@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Adam C. Engst) says: > > I'm curious, does anyone know of a No, but I have heard of a ------------------------------ Date: 31 Dec 87 13:40:37 GMT From: singer@XN.LL.MIT.EDU (Matthew R. Singer) Subject: Re: Multiuser BBS To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Kindy inform me as to what is so "abrasive" about FoReM ST. Perhaps you find it so because you are unfamilar with it. Please send me your name and address so I can send you a users manual. Matt Singer ------------------------------ Date: 31 Dec 87 14:11:22 GMT From: sgi!daisy!turner@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (D'arc Angel) Subject: graphic file interchange format To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Is there a simgle format or at least a conversion program that will let me use a picture file generated on a pc on a mac or atari.st or any other permutattion of machines ???? -- Laissez les bons temps rouler - Queen Ida ..{decwrl:ucbvax}!imagen!atari!daisy!turner (James M. Turner) Daisy Systems, 700 E. Middlefield Rd, P.O. Box 7006, Mountain View CA 94039-7006. (415)960-0123 ------------------------------ Date: 31 Dec 87 14:19:49 GMT From: lakesys!steven@csd1.milw.wisc.edu (Steven Goodman) Subject: Re: Multi-tasking? A nightmare... To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <2323@ihuxy.ATT.COM> rnss@ihuxy.UUCP (Ron Schreiner) writes: >Well this subject line get my vote for the "longest-most-usless" aword >of 87. If you are not clever enough to take advantage of multi-tasking >then don't use it, and stop telling everyone "who needs it ? " > > >-- >Ron Schreiner AT&T Bell Labs ...ihnp4!ihuxy!rnss AGREED! I have been reading this board on and off for some time now. This due to many users on my system whom use st's. Multi-tasking requires very little "cleverness" and the OS often does the work for you. It doesn't take long to see the advantages and use them. For me, if I had to return to a single tasking enviorment it would be like some of you having to return to a 40 column screen (bleech). Your 68000 is mot likely barely used. Why not give it abit extra in the way of jobs? Multi-tasking makes you far more productive. Useless award - this is right. I would guess that the most likely feature to be seen on all future machines will be OS's that multitask. Why the heck should you have to stop working just because your OS can't "talk and chew gum" at the same time? -- Steven Goodman : Lake Systems Milwaukee, Wisconsin : "A smart man talks, 1 (414) 744-7033 : a wise man listens" UUCP: {ihnp4,uwvax}!uwmcsd1!lakesys!steven : ------------------------------ Date: 30 Dec 87 20:19:09 GMT From: mtune!mtgzz!mtuxo!homxb!homxc!jdn@rutgers.edu (J.NAGY) Subject: INTERRUPT PROCESSING To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu How do you disable and enable interrupts from 1. The keyboard? 2. The SIO port? In the documentation at my disposal (Mark Williams C and Abacus) I can find the following table under Jdisint: Interrupt # event 0 I/O port bit 0 1 I/O prot bit 1 2 I/O port bit 2 3 I/O port bit 3 4 Timer D 5 Timer C 6 I/O port bit 4 7 I/O port bit 5 8 Timer B 9 sender error 10 sender buffer empty 11 receive error 12 receive buffer full 13 Timer A 14 I/O port bit 6 15 I/O port bit 7 Half of these are self explanatory, but the other half requires a mapping to atari st hardware events. Would someone be kind enough to inform me what events are represented by I/O port bits 0-7 in the atari 1040 ST? I presume that one of these represents a keyboard interrupt and another an SIO interrupt; otherwise I really need help! Thanks, Jonathan Nagy {ihnp4:allegra:mtune}!homxc!jdn (201) 615-4349 ------------------------------ Date: 31 Dec 87 13:54:09 GMT From: ulysses!mhuxt!mhuxu!cbz@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Craig B. Ziemer) Subject: Re: cartridge slot kludge boards To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <1345@pixar.UUCP>, mgr@pixar.UUCP (Michael Griffin Russell) writes: > Anyone out there know a company that sells a prototype > board for the ST cartridge slot. Any info on physically > plugging into the cartridge slot would be appreciated. I recently built a battery-backed real-time clock and a four channel A/D converter to plug into my cartridge port. I bought the board from, Douglas Electronics 718 Marina Blvd. San Leadro, CA 94577 (415) 483-8770 The board fits perfectly into the cartridge slot. It has holes spaced at 0.10 inches, 20 rows by 30 columns, with 8 rows dedi- cated for power and ground buses. The part number is 33-DE-40, costs $10.00, they'll ship it however you want, and they accept MC and VISA. I have nothing to do with this outfit other than being a satisfied customer. Craig Z. at AT&T mhuxu!cbz ------------------------------ Date: 31 Dec 87 15:10:40 GMT From: ulysses!mhuxt!mhuxu!cbz@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Craig B. Ziemer) Subject: 520ST Jittery Monitor Woes To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu I consider this problem to be minor, but I thought I'd see if anyone has had a similar experience. After my computer (520 ST) has been on for 1 to 1.5 hours, the *low resolution* display begins to get jittery. It starts out very mild (one or two scan lines misplaced a little) and then regresses to the point that I can hardly stand to look at it. If I switch to medium resolution, the problem disappears. Or, if I turn the computer off for a minute (just the computer, not the monitor or drive) then turn it back on, the display will be normal again for a while. Then the whole sequence repeats. It's been this way for a long, long time, but I didn't care too much because I almost always use medium resolution (the problem never occurs in this mode). I just recently acquired some neat (low resolution mode) games so now it's starting to annoy me. Although the computer is properly ventilated, my guess is that something is overheating. Any other ideas?????? Craig Z. at AT&T mhuxu!cbz ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jan 88 01:16:48 GMT From: lakesys!martin@csd1.milw.wisc.edu (Martin Wiedmeyer) Subject: Re: graphic file interchange format To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu After seeing Rich's post, I am reminded of David Mumper's fine graphics conversion and compression utility. I heartily reccommend Tiny in addition to PicSwitch. Marty -- : Martin Wiedmeyer - Lake Systems, Milwaukee, WI : : UUCP: {ihnp4,uwvax}!uwmcsd1!lakesys!martin : : Disclaimer: "I take the heat for my own (mis)statements!" : ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jan 88 00:33:09 GMT From: lakesys!martin@csd1.milw.wisc.edu (Martin Wiedmeyer) Subject: Re: graphic file interchange format To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu I have been using a handy utility called PicSwitch to convert Mac, Amiga and Mono ST pictures (Degas, NeoChrome) to be viewable on my RGB, It's Shareware, I believe, so I'd be happy to send you a copy if you'd like. Marty -- : Martin Wiedmeyer - Lake Systems, Milwaukee, WI : : UUCP: {ihnp4,uwvax}!uwmcsd1!lakesys!martin : : Disclaimer: "I take the heat for my own (mis)statements!" : ------------------------------ Date: 31 Dec 87 17:26:32 GMT From: sabre!gamma!pyuxp!pyuxe!crc6@faline.bellcore.com (C. Colbert) Subject: 40 folder limit To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu See Atari Explorer Spring 87 (Vol 7 no. 2) page 27 "Mike Schmall, Atari system programmer involved in upgrading the ST operating system, talked about how the new OS revision will affect Mega system performance:... In addition, we've made some changes that overcome natural limitaions of the original OS, such as the 40-folder limit." They also mention an upgrade to existing machines, adding blitters and new roms. Charles Colbert ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jan 88 01:31:53 GMT From: mnetor!utgpu!parora@uunet.uu.net (Pavneet Arora) Subject: Zoomracks (i.e. Hypercard's predecessor?) To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu I was just reading this quarter's STart magazine (Wint87), and came across an article on Zoomracks - an ST product which sounds a lot like Hypercard for the Mac. One major difference being that Zoomracks has been around for 3 years. The article is interesting. If anyone has used the product, perhaps they can post their views. Why hasn't this product come to light earlier? One thing I did notice was that the screens used in this article gave a definite edge to Hypercard since there were beautiful graphics mixed with text. Is this a shortcoming of Zoomracks? By the way the author of Zoomracks is Paul Heckel - the same person who developed the Craig Language Translator and wrote "The Elements of Friendly Software Design" (This is from the article). Pavneet Arora parora@utgpu ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jan 88 20:06:22 GMT From: lakesys!martin@csd1.milw.wisc.edu (Martin Wiedmeyer) Subject: Re: graphic file interchange format To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu I happen to have the issue of Computer Shopper right here which has the Universal Graphics Interchange cover article. It is the October '87 issue. Marty -- : Martin Wiedmeyer - Lake Systems, Milwaukee, WI : : UUCP: {ihnp4,uwvax}!uwmcsd1!lakesys!martin : : Disclaimer: "I take the heat for my own (mis)statements!" : ------------------------------ Mail-From: BILLW created at 4-Jan-88 12:15:39 Date: Sun, 03 Jan 88 22:07:41 IST From: RON LEOR Subject: INFORMATION To: BILL WESTFIELD ReSent-To: info-atari16@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU ReSent-From: BILLW at SCORE.STANFORD.EDU ReSent-Date: 4 Jan 1988 Dear sir. I own an Atari 1040ST and I would like to try using it for image processing in cardiology. I need a video digitizer which will be able to digitize stop-frame video tape pictures (not video camera), and be compatible with the video standards PAL, NTSC, SECAM, colors and/or black and white. Apart from obtaining the pictures on the monitor screen, I am interested in getting numeric picture files of 8 bits for each pixel. I would appreciate if you will be able to find out for me information on the above subject, be it available commercial devices, electronic kits, tested circuits in data sheet form or BITNET addresses of ST users successfully employing such digitizers. I am looking forward to your answer. Sincerely yours Dr. Ron Leor, The Heart Institute, Sheba Hospital, Tel Hashomer, Tel Avive, ISRAEL. ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ************************** -------