Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!think!ames!pasteur!ucbcad!ucbvax!BINGVAXB.BITNET!POSTMASTER From: POSTMASTER@BINGVAXB.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Returned Network Mail Message-ID: <8801120951.AA17108@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 12 Jan 88 09:48:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 434 Your mail is being returned to you. Reason for return is: %MAIL-E-NOSUCHUSR, no such user VY9074 at node VAXB Returned mail follows: ------------------------------ Received: From CANADA01(MAILER) by BINGVAXB with Jnet id 5961 for VY9074@BINGVAXB; Tue, 12 Jan 88 04:48 EST Received: by CANADA01 (Mailer X1.24) id 5958; Tue, 12 Jan 88 04:44:26 EDT Date: Mon, 11 Jan 88 23:48:24 PST Reply-To: Info-Atari16@Score.Stanford.edu Sender: INFO-ATARI16 Discussion From: Info-Atari16 Digest Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V88 #14 To: andrew stoffel Info-Atari16 Digest Monday, January 11, 1988 Volume 88 : Issue 14 This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield Today's Topics: atari --> sun pic translator Re: atari --> sun pic translator ATTN: Jim Holbach Lattice 3.04 forkvp() Summary of disk drive information Other uses for Atari monitor? Menu control for the ST INFORMATION Re: 40-folder bug and FOLDRXXX.PRG Need info on 2400 baud modem and C source debugger Re: CP/M Z80 Emulator Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 5 Jan 88 14:13:02 GMT From: jjoshua@TOPAZ.RUTGERS.EDU (Jonathan Joshua) Subject: atari --> sun pic translator To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu My original posting did not make it so here it goes again... I am looking for a program that will take an atari picture (.pi1-3, .neo, etc...) and translate it so that I could use it as a backdrop on a SUN terminal. If the SUN terminal is bitmapped similarly to the atari st there shouldn't be much of a problem, right? If anyone has the program that I just mentioned or any information about how I would go about writing the program, send me mail. Thanx in advance. ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jan 88 14:17:57 GMT From: jjoshua@topaz.rutgers.edu (Jonathan Joshua) Subject: Re: atari --> sun pic translator To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Stupid Pnews!!!! It forgot to add my .signature! Sorry about that. here it is. -- :o: Jonathan Joshua jjoshua@topaz.rutgers.edu Rutgers - Since 1766 :o: :o: :o: :o: Which way to A-La-Meda? :o: :o: I'm looking for the nuclear Waxes :o: ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jan 88 13:54:20 GMT From: ulysses!mhuxt!mhuxu!cbz@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Craig B. Ziemer) Subject: ATTN: Jim Holbach To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Jim Holbach: I've been trying to reach you for a couple weeks, but can't through to cbosgd. Where are you? Craig Z. at AT&T mhuxu!cbz ------------------------------ From: NETWORK%FRSAC11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Date: Tue, 05 Jan 88 14:54:15 GMT To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Subject: Lattice 3.04 forkvp() Date: 5 January 1988, 14:45:05 GMT From: NETWORK at FRSAC11 To: INFO-ATARI16 at SCORE Lately I had to use MCC Lattice C 3.04... I would use the forkvp() call, but when I try I get 3 lovely bombs on my screen, and it is ruining my whole evening. Can some king soul talk to me how to do a successful spawn in Lattice ? In MWC I do a Pexec and it is running, but I would prefer use a more straight UNIX formalism, and do a fork() or an exec(). (I know the semantics are not the same at all, but I am only interested in maintaining a portable coding, and accept the GEMDOS restrictions...) More on the subject: what do I have to do to transmit to the Pexeced process a nice environment ? (The doc I have on GEMDOS does not talk environment about Pexec.) Is the thing set up for me in the child basepage by Pexec ? or what ? (I *need* to transmit a nice environment.) Please help my code. Have a better year. Jean-Pierre H. Dumas network@frsac11 (bitnet) network%frsac11.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu (arpanet) dumas@sumex-aim.stanford.edu (arpanet) ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jan 88 21:07:44 GMT From: engst@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Adam C. Engst) Subject: Summary of disk drive information To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Well, the information on various disk drive has subsided, so I'll post the entire archive in another posting. To recap: my drive started to give write errors, often even refusing to boot. I tried tightening all the connections and making sure the chips, most notably the DMA chip were seated. Everything seems to have failed. I now have to possibilities. I can (a) take it to a repair place 2 hours away, which would be rather difficult since I work full time during break and don't have a car most of the time. On the other hand, I could (b) just order a new IBM style 3.5" drive and hope that it works. I have decided to follow the latter route for several reasons. First, I can always use the second drive even if it won't work internally. Second, I'm planning on getting a BMS board set and Seagate 238 30 meg hard disk as well, so I'll have a power supply and case handy. There also a few possible problems with this route. The drive might be too big, or might not attach correctly (I asked about the screw holes and it, a Fujitsu, does have them.), or it might not have the correct input/output for the write-protect sensor. To protect myself from that possibility, I ordered from a place that offers a 15 day refund policy. As far as the hard disk goes, BMS has been highly recommended and I see no reason to go with ICD instead since it sounds as if they merely copied the BMS board and made few improvments. I don't mind minor hardware jobs, and the BMS board set sounds fairly easy to assemble without soldering and all that hard stuff. (I don't want to buy the Atari or Supra drives because of minor problems like size, cable length, potential reliability problems etc. I also think it will be fun to put everything together.) The Seagate drive is cheap and basic and 30 meg, which is better than the Atari-specific drives for the same size. So, my system should end up looking like this. DS/DD internal floppy (Fuijitsu - IBM-style) $115 DS/DD external floppy (old internal drive $000 used only for reading) needs a cable from E. Arthur Brown $35 BMS board set $250 Seagate 238 30 meg hard disk $275 Power supply and case combo $80 I'm only actually buying the new internal drive for now - I have to get the ST working well before I invest any more money into it and I still don't know for sure that the DMA chip isn't the culprit. Adam Thanks to all of you who sent information or offered help in one way or another. Luckily I didn't lose anything in the whole mess and I've sort of enjoyed the research I had to put in to finally decide. If anyone has any major problems with what I've decided, please feel free to tell me; I'm still open to suggestions. -- Adam C. Engst engst@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu pv9y@cornella.bitnet "If it's not interactive fiction, it's not fun." ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jan 88 21:39:43 GMT From: ucsdhub!hp-sdd!ncr-sd!ncrlnk!ncrcce!rogers@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu (Bob Rogers) Subject: Other uses for Atari monitor? To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Has anybody successfully used the Atari color monitor with other computers? Will it work on a PC with multisync card? Thanks -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Rogers rogers@StPaul.NCR.COM NCR Comten, St. Paul, MN ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jan 88 22:25:00 GMT From: franco@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu Subject: Menu control for the ST To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Here is a program that solves the problem of unwanted menu dropping when the mouse is accidentally moved to the menu bar. Put the program in the AUTO folder. After booting you should notice that you cannot move the mouse above the menu bar with any button released or with any button pressed starting from any point below the menu bar. However, if you move the mouse to the bottom of the menu bar with the left button released and then apply upward movement to the mouse while pressing the left button you will move the mouse into the menu bar (and drop a menu if one is right under the mouse position). From there two modes of operation are possible: for Atari mode release the left button - this gives menu control exactly as packaged by Atari. In Atari mode you can move the mouse all over the screen dropping menus all over the place until you click on a menu item (in which case the item is selected) or click off the menu (in which case the menu pops up with no action taken). For Mac mode keep the left button pressed then move the mouse down the menu of your choice until you find the desired item to selected - then release the button to select that item. If you release the button while the mouse is off the dropped menu then no action will be taken and the dropped menu will pop back up. The problems: Atari mode: I do not know of any Mac mode: Can be fooled in the following two ways: 1. Bring the mouse right up to the bottom of the menu bar. With the slightest upward movement possible, press the left button - when you see the menu bar drop, stop all mouse movement. Then, while continuing to hold down the left button, move the mouse sharply down. The result: the menu will pop back up and the first item will be selected. 2. Move the mouse to the menu bar with upward-movement-while-pressing but not over a menu position. When the mouse is moved over a menu the menu will not drop. To work in Mac mode (as I always do) and not let the problems above affect you, a) give a little extra upward movement while pressing the left button (actually it is hard to avoid doing this), and b) if a menu fails to drop, either use Atari mode or release then press the button for Mac mode. I will be grateful to the person that posts a program which solves these problems. Acknowledgement: This program is based on previous work by David Small and Brent McKim. John Franco Bloomington, IN franco@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu The code below was tested only using a monochrome monitor. However, I see no reason why it should not work using a color monitor. 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I own an Atari 1040ST and I would like to try using it for image processing in cardiology. I need a video digitizer which will be able to digitize stop-frame video tape pictures (not video camera), and be compatible with the video standards PAL, NTSC, SECAM, colors and/or black and white. Apart from obtaining the pictures on the monitor screen, I am interested in getting numeric picture files of 8 bits for each pixel. I would appreciate if you will be able to find out for me information on the above subject, be it available commercial devices, electronic kits, tested circuits in data sheet form or BITNET addresses of ST users successfully employing such digitizers. I am looking forward to your answer. Sincerely yours Dr. Ron Leor, The Heart Institute, Sheba Hospital, Tel Hashomer, Tel Avive, ISRAEL. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jan 88 23:24:27 GMT From: decvax!virgin!zinn!mem@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Mark E. Mallett) Subject: Re: 40-folder bug and FOLDRXXX.PRG To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <920@atari.UUCP>, neil@atari.UUCP (Neil Harris) writes: > What good does it do to start rumors like this? > > Do us all a favor, if you need something to talk about, discuss the weather. > > Most ridiculous rumors of 1987 awards: > > 1. The blitters didn't work, so we're using kludged-up Amiga blitters. > > 2. The blitters partially work, so we removed 4 of 8 functions from them. Here are some more: 1. Atari makes a laser printer. 2. .. an IBM PC clone 3. .. something called a MEGA 2 and a MEGA 4. 4. .. a blitter chip. 5. .. a set of new ROMS called "blitter ROMS" for the ST. Will the wise guy that started those rumors please cut it out!? Oh, OK, we're trading those rumors in for rumours about the Abaq. Does Abaq mean "wolf"? > Please, folks, give us a break. We're easy enough to talk to if you want to > ASK a question. Oh no, there they go again. More rumors. -- Mark E. Mallett Home phone: 603-424-8129 uucp: mem@zinn.UUCP (...decvax!elrond!zinn!mem or ...sii!zinn!mem) BIX: mmallett ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jan 88 10:15:18 GMT From: pasteur!cory.Berkeley.EDU!dle@cad.Berkeley.EDU (Duy Le) Subject: Need info on 2400 baud modem and C source debugger To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu I am looking for a 2400 baud modem. In the winter 1987 issue of START, there was an ad which said that I could get an Avatex 2400 for $219 or a Supra 2400 ST (ST) for just $159. Now here are my questions: 1. which one is more reliable? Are there any other 2400 baud modems? If so, please give me the name(s), where I can find them and their features (if possible). 2. how come the Supra 2400 ST is so cheap compared to Avatex 2400? 3. One of the people that I know told me that a 2400 baud modem is just like a 1200 baud modem. He said "you can't see the difference in terms of speed." Is this true? Also, is there a C source debugger available for either the Alcyon C compiler or the Lattice C compiler? If so, how much does it cost? how does it work compared to dbx (UNIX)? and where can I find it? Please mail to me at dle@cory.Berkeley.EDU. Thank you for your information. Duy ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jan 88 21:25:56 GMT From: mcvax!unido!rmi!dg2kk!root@uunet.uu.net (The Superuser) Subject: Re: CP/M Z80 Emulator To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <104@mccc.UUCP> pjh@mccc.UUCP (Peter J. Holsberg) writes: | I'm looking for a CP/M - Z80 emulator that will run on a 680x0-based | computer. Please email if you know of such a beast. Thx. | | Trenton, NJ 08690 Voice: 1-609-586-4800 There is a PD CP/M Emulator (in software) available for the Atari-ST. It seems that the Atari Version was originally written for a CPM68k system. -Walter ------------------------------ From: AB084%DK0RRZK0.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1988 16:39:51 CET To: INFO-ATARI16@score.stanford.edu Subject: Thanks I should have thanked everybody who wrote to me in response to my letter about operating systems. I did so in some cases. But there are people I am seemingly unable to write to. And I noticed that I have accidentally deleted some letters, so I cannot answer them any more. Therefore I have to choose this way to say THANK YOU| Michael Eibl BTW: I found most of the letters worth being sent to the net. Especially as compared to some af the somewhat childish arguments that I read there... ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ************************** -------