Xref: utzoo comp.sys.amiga:13637 comp.sys.atari.st:7149 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!bloom-beacon!gatech!uflorida!codas!cpsc6a!rtech!mtxinu!unisoft!hoptoad!academ!uhnix1!sugar!karl From: karl@sugar.UUCP (Karl Lehenbauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.atari.st Subject: In defense of the Amiga/Atari ST flame war Message-ID: <1401@sugar.UUCP> Date: 16 Jan 88 05:57:41 GMT Organization: Sugar Land UNIX - Houston, TX Lines: 39 There has been an ongoing "net war" between a handful of vocal Atari ST and Amiga people. It heats up once in a while, with a flurry of virulent postings, then cools down, then heats up again. After it's heated up, a handful of people post about what a waste of time and/or net resources it is. I'd like to speak for a moment in defense of the "war." First of all, concern about the wasting of net bandwidth are overblown. "You're wasting net bandwidth" is the bogeyman on usenet, isn't it? I speculate that most of the people on the net, including those who post messages like that pay nothing for net access. (No tons o' followups from the exceptions, please) I'd estimate the ST/Amiga war consumes no more than 50k/month, trivial when compared to total traffic on comp.*.amiga and comp.*.atari.st and supertrivial when compared to total net traffic. Second of all, it's not really hurting anybody, at least not much. The people who could conceivably claim they've been harmed by the war fall into three categories: those who've had their feelings hurt because their computers were criticized, those who've had their feelings hurt because they were flamed and those who would rather not see the material. The first group need to get tough. Flame victims have some legitimate grievance. Usenet postings are all too often personally insulting, but that's hardly the exclusive province of the Amiga and ST groups. As for the inconvenience caused for those who don't want to read the stuff, well, it's really not all that much. ('though you'd never know it from some of the followups.) I mean, hit 'N' if you don't want to read it. ("vn" users have an even easier time of it.) Third of all, and in refutation of the second most common complaint about the war, something good can come of it. For example, David Beckemeyer is seriously considering placing his Atari ST multitasking C shell in the public domain, partially as a result of the Amiga/ST flame wars. And finally, it's entertaining. Yes, I have to admit that I actually enjoy reading the flames. I like watching the ST guys get flayed :-) :-) :-) It breaks up the monotony of all of the useful and informative Amiga messages from the likes of Chuck, Fred, Bryce, Leo, George, Carolyn, Andy, Peter et al... can't speak for the ST camp, but hey. -- ..!uunet!nuchat!sugar!karl, Unix BBS (713) 933-2440