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From: dennett@kodak.UUCP (Charlie Dennett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP3000 Utilities, etc.
Message-ID: <1098@kodak.UUCP>
Date: 16 Jan 88 16:45:52 GMT
Reply-To: dennett@kodak.UUCP (Charlie Dennett)
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co, Rochester, NY
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In a recent article, jja of the Tampere University of Technology, Finland
thanked the people who had responded to his requests for information on	
the HP users's group and its contributed software library.  He (or is it	she) wanted to hear from other users about their favorite utilities.  Well,	
here are mine.		

HP3000 users are well aware that HP does NOT supply a full screen editor with
their system.  The line oriented editor QUAD from the user's group is a 
better editor but still not a full screen editor.  (QUAD was written by 	
Jim Kramer, himself an HP employee!)  I have heard people rave about another	
editor called QEDIT from Robelle Consulting Ltd.  However, we do not have it	here, so I cannot give you any first hand impressions.  Reportedly, HP has	
a full screen editor called ED that they use in-house.  Maybe you can get
a copy.

If you are heavily into database applications with IMAGE or TurboIMAGE, I  
suggest you get a copy of the book The IMAGE/3000 Handbook.  Also, you might
want to consider some kind of database tool that lets you go in and do 
all sorts of good things.  Around here we have a product called DBGENERAL.
Believe me, it has pulled my butt out of the fire more than once!  HP also
sells a similar product as does a company called Adager.  However, I have   
never used either of them.  

I can mention two things that allow you to monitor the system.  These are 
OPT/3000 from HP and TSOO from the user's group.  (Actually TSOO is one
of a family of programs.  First came OVERLORD which begat Son Of Overlord
(SOO) which begat TSOO [among others]).

That's all I can think of for now.  I too would be glad to here from others
on this subject.

DISCLAIMER: The above are my opinions only.  I have no interest in any of the
products mentioned above nor any of the companies.  The above statements
come from me and not my employer. 

Oh, yes.  The 1988 International Users Conference is being held May 30
through June 3 in Goteborg, Sweden.  jja, if you can go, do so.  I went to
my first conference In Las Vegas, Nevada last September.  You can learn
quite a lot just talking to other users.  I plan on going to the one in
Orlando Florida next August if my boss will let me!
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