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From: shankar@hpclscu.HP.COM (Shankar Unni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP3000 Utilities, etc.
Message-ID: <1340007@hpclscu.HP.COM>
Date: 18 Jan 88 20:06:50 GMT
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Organization: HP ITG/ISO Computer Language Lab
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/ hpclscu:comp.sys.hp / dennett@kodak.UUCP (Charlie Dennett) /  8:45 am  Jan 16, 1988 /

> HP3000 users are well aware that HP does NOT supply a full screen editor with
> their system.  The line oriented editor QUAD from the user's group is a
> better editor but still not a full screen editor.  (QUAD was written by
> Jim Kramer, himself an HP employee!)  I have heard people rave about another
> editor called QEDIT from Robelle Consulting Ltd.  However, we do not have
> it here, so I cannot give you any first hand impressions.  Reportedly, HP has
> a full screen editor called ED that they use in-house.  Maybe you can get
> a copy.

I wasn't under the impression that ED was a full-screen editor (at least in the
tradition of "vi" end "emacs").

The "full-screen" mode of QUAD or QEDIT (or TDP, for that matter) is simply
a screenful of text in block mode - one "edits" the text locally (in display
memory ) using the cursor keys and the screen editing keys (insert char, etc),
and then presses "ENTER" to send the text back to the machine.

There are several in-house full-screen editors in use around the company, but
naturally few of them are really product-quality or releasable. I believe,
however, that Unipress, Inc. (of EMACS fame) have ported a (reasonably
powerful) subset of EMACS called MicroEMACS to the HP3000. Try them.

Shankar.