Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ames!amdcad!sun!pitstop!sundc!seismo!uunet!mcvax!enea!kuling!irf From: irf@kuling.UUCP (Bo Thide) Newsgroups: comp.text Subject: Looking for nicely looking "umlauts" Message-ID: <605@kuling.UUCP> Date: 17 Jan 88 12:32:18 GMT Reply-To: irf@kuling.UUCP (Bo Thide) Organization: Dept. of Computer Systems, Uppsala University, Sweden Lines: 31 The glyphs representing the three extra Swedish characters "o with dots", "a with dots", and "a with circle" look extremely ugly in TeX. Somehow I have the feeling that non-Swedes think of these characters as special instance of the letters "o" and "a". That is just as wrong as describing the letter "E" as a special instance of "F" (who in his right mind would describe an "E" as "an F with an underbar" ??). The three letters I refer to are totally separate entities and Swedish keyboards have special keys for them. Historically, of course, the special characters I'm discussing developed from "oe","ae", and "ao", but that was many centuries ago and today there is nobody who remebers this and the characters are treated on equal footing as the rest (a-z). In fact, in "normal" Swedish we always replace "w" by "v" - how would you Anglo-Saxons like if we replaced all your "w"s by "v"s? Looking at TeX printouts you see that the dots and the rings are placed *very* high above the "o"s and the "a"s whereas in Swedish typography they are placed so low that they almost touch the "o"s and "a"s. This gives you the impression of that the people who contructed the TeX glyphs representing the characters in question (erroneously) thought that these dots/rings are some sort of diactricals. This is not so and my question is: Is there anbody out there who has created Swedish natinal characters with the correct typographical look? If so, please reply here or by e-mail. -Bo -- >>> Bo Thide', Swedish Institute of Space Physics, S-755 90 Uppsala, Sweden <<< Phone (+46) 18-300020. Telex: 76036 (IRFUPP S). UUCP: ..enea!kuling!irfu!bt