Xref: utzoo comp.unix.wizards:6224 talk.bizarre:7340
Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ucbvax!ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU!fair
From: fair@ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU (Erik E. Fair)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards,talk.bizarre
Subject: How Soon They Forget...
Message-ID: <22726@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Date: 25 Jan 88 00:56:28 GMT
References: <509@gtx.com>
Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
Organization: USENET Protocol Police, Western Gateway Division
Lines: 30

I caught up on a month's worth of UNIX-Wizards today, and saw this
comment in the "Pournelle on UNIX vs. OS/2" debate:

In the referenced article, al@gtx.UUCP (Al Filipski) writes:

	"UNIX? Nosireebob, I'm waiting for it to come out on an
	S-100 machine with 8-1/2 inch floppies."

and then I looked in vain for the rejoinder...

Doesn't ANYONE remember the Dual System 83? It was the first 68000
based UNIX (a V7 kernel with 2.8 BSD utilities, introduced in
November 1981), and it did indeed use the S-100 (IEEE-696) bus,
and 8-1/2 inch floppy drives.

MMU? Uh, well, Motorola hadn't done one yet, so the first Dual
didn't have one either. Unfortunately, what Motorola eventually
came up with was the 68451. Ugh.

Dual Systems also holds the dubious distinction of having launched
UniSoft Systems, by virtue of having been Jeff Schriebman's first
customer.

Dual never did get reviewed by Pournelle. On the other hand, he
never tried to run UNIX with CompuPro's S-100 hardware. If he had
(like Dual did - they used CompuPro's disk controllers and serial
cards for a while), he probably would have ended up with a different
opinion about them...

	Erik E. Fair	ucbvax!fair	fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu