Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!sri-spam!ames!lll-lcc!lll-winken!uunet!mcvax!botter!wundt From: wundt@wundt.psy.vu.nl (Wundt Administrator) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: Arbitron "Users" count is very wrong under BSD Message-ID: <181@wundt.psy.vu.nl> Date: 21 Jan 88 09:02:59 GMT References: <15538@onfcanim.UUCP> <247@bacchus.DEC.COM> Reply-To: wundt@psy.vu.nl (Wundt Administrator) Organization: VU Psychologie, Amsterdam Lines: 24 There are several suggestions given other than last | sort to count the number of users. One of these requires that "active" users be grouped within a contiguous range of uid numbers, but you can sort. See the arbitron.sh (the program ! as distributed) for all the suggestions given. The first example I read about (complaining) said that only 13 of the 27 users were real. If uucp daemons, etc. are kept in the range 0-20 or 0-100 (then root dosn't get counted either) this could solve one problem. Further, users who are not allowed to read news could be given very high UIDs, e.g. greater than 10,000 (or 1000). The "problem" with this suggestion requires that the password file be "manageable". If "process- demon- users" are spread throughout it probably won't be fixed. (I'd include the text here, but if you are really interested, read the distribution next time around (if you haven't got it on hand) michael felt