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From: wunder@hpcea.CE.HP.COM (Walter Underwood)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: Someone is editing headers
Message-ID: <1160006@hpcea.CE.HP.COM>
Date: 20 Jan 88 07:30:52 GMT
References: <22401@hi.unm.edu>
Organization: HP Corporate Engineering - Palo Alto, CA
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An update on the duplicate articles earlier this month.  They were
caused by an old-style Notes feed inside HP (old-style Notes had no
way to store the domain on a message-ID).  So Erik Fair's analysis was
right:

    This is almost certainly one of the HP sites; they run notesfiles
    almost exclusively which is known to exhibit this kind of poor
    network behavior.

My first guess (posted to the net) was that it was caused by hplsla.
In fact it was a system that fed hplsla, and the folks at hplsla
helped track down the problem.  Lord knows how the old-style feed went
undetected for so long, but it was fixed a couple of days after we
noticed it.

These days we use news batches for transport, and only a serious
student of article headers can distinguish articles posted at a Notes
site from those posted at a News site.

Walter Underwood
wunder@hplabs.hp.com