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From: clewis@spectrix.UUCP (Chris R. Lewis)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,news.misc
Subject: Re: The solution to: Re: "We don't get that newsgroup here"
Message-ID: <417@spectrix.UUCP>
Date: 29 Jan 88 17:23:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: spectrix.417
Posted: Fri Jan 29 12:23:46 1988
References: <693@brandx.rutgers.edu> <505@cresswell.quintus.UUCP> <112@falkor.UUCP> <610@acer.stl.stc.co.uk> <118@falkor.UUCP> <4217@eagle.ukc.ac.uk>
Reply-To: clewis@spectrix.UUCP (Chris R. Lewis)
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In article <4217@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> sph@ukc.ac.uk (S.P.Holmes) writes:
|In article <118@falkor.UUCP> heiby@mcdchg.UUCP (Ron Heiby) writes:
|>David Wright (dww@stl.stc.co.uk) writes:
|>> But what about when it IS the backbone that isn't passing the newsgroup?
|>> This discussion started because of postings of poems in misc.misc from the UK.
|
|Yes remember this discussion, well perhaps I can give a perspective
|from this side of the lake which might explain why some european
|postings appear in strange newsgroups.
|
|Therefore when I post my soon to be written masterpiece on liontaming,
|I post to misc.misc since we don't get, and I don't even know if there is
|rec.sports.liontaming (and how can I be sure that there's a rec.arts.dangerous
|to crosspost to).
|
|So this guy writes some poems, and puts them in the only place where they
|can't cause offence (as far as he can see). He's certainally not crossed
|any of the major rules in the newusers announcement (No heavy crossposting,
|no heavy quoting etc.

People may be getting a little confused about the existence of a newsgroup
versus its propagation.

One of the things I've been wondering about for a long time over this
discussion, is why Europe doesn't have the same (with some local variations)
list of newsgroups as in North America?  The only caveat being that there 
is no *transport* between Europe and North America.  Even if there might be 
relatively little traffic in some of the groups not currently in place.

Thus, over there, you would have a place to post your liontaming masterpiece, 
or the gentleman from Bath would have rec.poems to post to.  But, neither of
them would be seen over 'ere.  And vice-versa for North American posters.

Connecting the two would be a simple matter of turning on a "sys" entry
somewhere on the normal cross-Atlantic feed, OR, setting up some other
partial feed somewhere.  Politically, I would think that it would require
someone willing to pay the trans-Atlantic transport cost, *plus* some
agreement (a vote) on both sides of the pond to allow the additional
traffic over intra-continental links.

Thus, if the cost of transmitting stuff to Europe abruptly dropped, or
everybody got very interested in international poetry, there would be
very little difficulty in merging the two geographically-isolated,
but isomorphous networks.  Further, it doesn't particularly require
an identical newsgroup hierarchy, some could be coalesced, and some
could simply be aliased.

It appears that Australia has some sort of equivalent setup to what I 
suggest.

This of course is probably a silly suggestion if the reason for Europe's
lack of rec.poems is intra-Europe load over and above just trans-atlantic
expenses.
-- 
Chris Lewis, Spectrix Microsystems Inc,
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