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From: oleg@quad1.quad.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Newsgroups: sci.bio,soc.men,soc.women,sci.misc
Subject: Re: Rape a reproductive advantage?
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Date: 15 Jan 88 19:24:48 GMT
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David Palmer drips sarcasm:
>Of course there is no similarity.  The 'human' rapist is taking control
>of a woman's body for his own ends (feeling of power) 
>... while the duck rapist ... is taking control
>of the female duck's body for his own ends (genetic propagation)

So where is the reproductive advantage of rape in humans?  I see the duck
rape being driven by a procreation imperative, while human rape is a social
power (domination) trip.  How does that translate into a reproductive 
advantage?

>Are you saying that human power dynamics is not biologically useful? (In
>moderation at least).  "La droit de Seigneur" (sp? you know what I mean)
>if it existed (there are people who say it didn't, same as tooth fairies
>and the moon landing) is a part of human power dynamics which would have
>been biologically useful to the Seigneur (sp?)

That's highly unlikely.  Women are fertile only 3-4 days a month.  The chance
of conception even during the fertility period is well less than 100% (someone
had posted the odds of conception just recently -- care to repeat them?).  
Hardly seems like a REPRODUCTIVE act, more like a SOCIAL one -- assertion of
power and control.

>What I am saying is that if you think that Humans are the only beings
>which do nasty things, you should think again.

Sure they are not, but what does that prove or justify?  What WAS the point of
this whole series of articles?
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