Xref: utzoo rec.ham-radio:3549 sci.med:3684 sci.electronics:1817 sci.misc:675 sci.physics:2724 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!cmcl2!brl-adm!brl-smoke!gwyn From: gwyn@brl-smoke.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) Newsgroups: rec.ham-radio,sci.med,sci.electronics,sci.misc,sci.physics Subject: Re: Cancer and Electromagnetic Radiation (Long) Keywords: Cancer, Radio, Electromagnetic Radiation, ANSI, Chemical Hazards Message-ID: <6956@brl-smoke.ARPA> Date: 6 Jan 88 08:35:12 GMT References: <1077@kodak.UUCP> Reply-To: gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn (VLD/VMB) ) Organization: Ballistic Research Lab (BRL), APG, MD. Lines: 38 In article <1077@kodak.UUCP> ornitz@kodak.UUCP (barry ornitz) writes: > Cause Expected Actual > Leukemia 29 36 > Lymphatic etc. Cancers 72 89 > Prostate Cancer 67.6 (!) 78 >I am not sure about the statistical differences between these numbers, That's not too hard. In lieu of further information, note that these are "rare event counts". Generally you can assume Poisson statistics in such cases. This means the probable error of the estimate is the square root of the estimated count, or approximately 6, 9, and 8 respectively. Roughly 2/3 of the time, the Actual should fall within this range of the Expected, if there is no significant correclation. Although the observed deviations are somewhat larger than expected, no one measurement has statistically significant deviation from chance at the 95% probability level. The composite probability for the set of three measurements may be such that it can be taken as an indication of a correlation (I don't want to bother with the arithmetic), but I can tell by inspection that it won't be a really strong indication. >"amateur radio operator licensees in Washington >state and California have significant excess mortality due to acute myloid >leukemia, multiple myeloma and perhaps certain types of malignant >lymphoma." This is simply a misleading statement. Each is significant only at probability levels well below general statistical practice (90%, 95%, or 99%). >I believe that other causality should be investigated by the medical >profession before Dr. Milham's conclusions are accepted. Quite right. Even a statistically significant correlation does not necessarily imply a direct causal relationship. Conclusions such as "amateur radio radiation causes cancer" cannot be reliably drawn from this evidence. I don't know whether it does or not, frankly, and the evidence is inconclusive. At best, it may guide further research (has anyone tried subjecting lab mice in large numbers to higher dosages?).