Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!bellcore!faline!ulysses!allegra!princeton!udel!gatech!bbn!uwmcsd1!grc!gary From: gary@grc.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Wire-wrap Question Message-ID: <799@grc.UUCP> Date: 15 Jan 88 15:56:12 GMT References: <7110004@hpcupt1.HP.COM> Reply-To: gary@grc.UUCP (Gary Sutcliffe) Organization: GENROCO, Inc., Slinger, WI Lines: 44 Posted: Fri Jan 15 10:56:12 1988 In article <7110004@hpcupt1.HP.COM> glowell@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Gary Lowell) writes: > >Does anybody know if wire-wrap can be used to build a reliable proto-type >at 20 Mhz clock rates and what techniques can be employed minimize >problems ? I am trying to determine the feasibility building a homebrew >computer using 20 Mhz 80386 chipset. > >Thanks for the help. > >-- >Gary Lowell I have built a few prototypes using 20 MHz clocks. I have found it can cause lots of little glitches that are hard to track down. Most of these seem to disappear when a printed circuit version is built. We have stopped building wirewrap prototypes of high speed circuits because of these flakey problems, and start with a PC prototype. However, if you still want to try, here is what I suggest: 1) Start with a wirewrap board with a good ground plane. One side should be solid ground (except for small areas for pins), and the other should be power or alternating power and ground. 2) Use *lots* of bypass capacitors. 3) Keep ICs as close together as possible to keep wire lengths to a minimum. 4) Use a twisted pair for long wires and for wires that carry high speed signals (such as clocks), or where a large number of wires are next to each other for a long distance. Connect the second wire to ground at each end. 5) Memory arrays are a special problem because signal reflections can mess up the close timing required to run dynamic RAM. Consider using a memory card from another computer and interface that to your wirewrap CPU. Considering the pain it is to wire up a large array by hand, you would probably be better off buying a memory card anyway. Good luck! - Gary. -- Gary Sutcliffe W9XT (414) 644-8700 GENROCO, Inc. Slinger, Wis. {ames, rutgers, harvard} uwvax!uwmcsd1!grc!gary Disclaimer (data compressed): "f+)Je\ ^_RMv9h|O |j8gELc=tAYw$pfs!1"