Path: utzoo!utgpu!tmsoft!mason From: mason@tmsoft.UUCP (Dave Mason) Newsgroups: tor.news Subject: Latest news flood Message-ID: <272@tmsoft.UUCP> Date: 25 Jan 88 03:01:24 GMT Reply-To: mason@tmsoft.UUCP (Dave Mason) Distribution: tor Organization: TM Software Associates, Toronto Lines: 44 Here's a list of recent news arrivals here (in paren is what's unexpired): News received on Jan 23 4383 k bytes News received on Jan 22 5446 ( 5443) k bytes News received on Jan 21 4861 ( 4292) k bytes News received on Jan 20 3333 ( 1343) k bytes News received on Jan 19 4133 ( 1387) k bytes News received on Jan 18 377 ( 69) k bytes News received on Jan 17 1588 ( 160) k bytes News received on Jan 16 3489 ( 0) k bytes News received on Jan 15 3346 ( 0) k bytes News received on Jan 14 3183 ( 0) k bytes News received on Jan 13 2254 ( 0) k bytes I was looking through the expire(8) man page & it talks about 5000 articles/week (circa 1986). Well I've expired about 1/3 and still have 7316 articles totaling 19985k for 5 days (which works out to about 14000 per week, about the claimed doubling/year of news). Most of the recent flood has come via utzoo (rather than water). I've noticed several articles that I'd seen before and had been expired. My nightly expire job expires junky things in 2 days, then keeps expiring everything else until there's 5Mb free or it gets to 6 days left. As you may surmise from the above, it got down to 6 days, but there was only about 1Mb free. I manually did an 'expire -p -e 11 -E 13' today and got back 6.5Mb. So, what's going on? My guess is that utzoo (or possibly someone further away) had a huge backlog (more than 16Mb (2+ weeks)), which they flushed over the last 3 days (reinstalled C rnews? :-). What I find interesting is that utgpu (our feed) seems to only keep 2 weeks worth of history file, as they were passing along these articles as new. I hope I didn't throw away too much real news with my manual expire, but spool space was getting pretty minimal (I know I didn't throw away anything that I read, and my feeds (with the possible exception of spectrix (we'll see when they start picking up news)) haven't missed anything (more good luck than good management on my part)). I've heard that the flood filled ontmoh's spool space, I wonder about others. Any comments? And what groups does mnetor bring in these days vs. what water brings in? ../Dave