Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdcad!amdahl!ames!aurora!agate!ucbvax!rutgers!rochester!bbn!oberon!uscacsc!paul From: paul@uscacsc.usc.edu (acsc staff) Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk Subject: Re: still more musique pour le . . . . . Message-ID: <362@uscacsc.usc.edu> Date: 8 Feb 88 18:29:25 GMT References: <2727@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <1630@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <3a16fe27.b263@hi-csc.UUCP> <1652@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Reply-To: paul@uscacsc.UUCP (acsc staff) Organization: USC ACSC, Los Angeles Lines: 25 In article <1652@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> tom@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Thomas C Hajdu) writes: > In article <3a16fe27.b263@hi-csc.UUCP> giebelhaus@hi-csc.UUCP (Timothy R. Giebelhaus) writes: > >In article <1630@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> tom@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Thomas C Hajdu) writes: > I had hoped it would not require a particularly close reading of my > comments to discern a sensitivity to and experience with these three > composers. One of the targets of my knee-jerk reaction was the > comingling of Holst with Mozart and Beethoven. This seems to me > boorish at best. The REAL offense, however, was the reliance on > music of the past for describing a culture of an imagined future. > I never said that Mozart and Beethoven were boring -- they are in fact > places where I have spent much of my listening life. They seem, > however, in this context, to be used merely as pitons poked frantically > into the rock wall of the present to try and avoid plummeting headlong > kicking and screaming into the future. I understand your point and while it does seem an ironic juxtoposition there are some things that transcend time, true aesthetics for one. As has been pointed out the circumstances existing while they were composed may have been quite different than the those extant now but the music still contains as much energy and verve as when it was first played. -- Paul Nahi Advanced Computing Support Center paul@uscacsc.usc.edu