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From: learn@igloo.UUCP (william vajk)
Newsgroups: talk.origins,alt.flame
Subject: Re: Flat Earth?  More mindless drivel.
Summary: direct observation makes a fool of
Keywords: Round-earther Idiocy Mindless Drivel
Message-ID: <378@igloo.UUCP>
Date: 30 Jan 88 14:20:35 GMT
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In article <1570@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>, greg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gregory Nowak) writes:
> In article <864@elmgate.UUCP> ram@elmgate.UUCP (Randy Martens) writes:
> }In article <1551@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Gregory Nowak(me) writes:
> }}In article <862@elmgate.UUCP> ram@elmgate.UUCP (Randy Martens) writes:
> }}}His postings are even more amusing than ever.  The essential flaw in his
> }}}arguments is this: There are no round earth theories, because the earth
> }}}being round is _FACT_ .  Do you hear that Mr. "Mathemagus".  Not theory.
> }}}Fact. Period. 
> 
> }}Calm down. Please explain to us hall how you have managed to bypass
> }}scientific method, and now come to certain knowledge of the natural
> }}world by divine revelation. There are no facts, only theories. The
> }}less rude to Mr. Joly.
> 
> We are discussing physics. Not Astro- or particle, but mechanics and
> its bastard children. We are trying to have a discussion of science,
> but your idea of discussing science seems to be "I'm right. Story's
> over." I would be glad to discuss science with you -- begin whenever
> you wish.
> 
> I suppose next you're going to try to convince me that Kodak only makes
> spherical film ....

This round vs. flat earth discussion is absurd. One of the things taught
early to schoolchildren is the shape of things. A ball, a building block,
a sheet of paper, a cone, and such. These things are defined. When one sees
a ball, it is always a sphere. And as we progress through life, until some
idiot attempts to recreate the definition, or play games of (dis)logic,
a ball is a sphere, large or small.

A framework of absolutes is created, and these absolutes are used by
all salient creatures. These absolutes, if not accepted, destroy the
basis for all science, proofs, and logic. Such discussions have little
merit, short of humor.

The flat earth discussions here in alt.flame (you people have been cross
for quite some time) lack even the humor aspect. I love the concept of whining
about ad hominem attacks in articles that reach alt.flame. It is so cute,
just like the total innocence whining portrays.

Learn to edit the distribution. You really *don't* want to talk to me
about flat vs. round earth.

Spherical film is easy. What I'm waiting for is the camera...


Bill Vajk                                           learn@igloo